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Old 10-27-2012, 07:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Honestly, on this issue i would say it might be something to do with people from the UK - Hunting for enjoyment is a lot more frowned upon over here.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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A great scene from a great film. Whilst it may be true that many human beings are violent by nature, there comes a point where you have to draw a line between going too far and extreme cases of violence.
I wouldn't call that a great film. Everyone has to draw that line. Hunting isn't that line. It's why it's legal and considered helpful in many communities. An extreme case of violence is ****, murder, assault with a deadly weapon... not deer hunting.
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And that is the comment of someone who has never known someone who deserved death. I know this will offend you - and probably GrappleRetarded - but not all killing is wrong. If you kill an animal for the meat and enjoy yourself while doing it - that's not wrong. If you kill someone who is a threat to others - that is not wrong.

That General is one of the most highly regarded men in the United States military by his men. For being fair and empathetic to their and the civilians needs. There is at least one story of him personally going to the home of a civilian who had been caught in the crossfire and talking to the man's widow personally. Is that a corrupt man? I don't think so.

I didnt say it was wrong to kill, just that you must be sick to enjoy the act...something must be wrong in the mind. General is corrupt inside for sure.
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I didnt say it was wrong to kill, just that you must be sick to enjoy the act...something must be wrong in the mind. General is corrupt inside for sure.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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I dont team up with him....i was joking anyway, I don't really think someone should shoot you.

Anyone who kills for fun is morally corrupt, i don't care if they have also done some good, Jimmy Savile raped kids...but hey, he raised a bunch of money for them too - so its OK right?

No...your General is a corrupt person, no good will change that.
There's a very clear reason why in 2012, when we can go into a store and pick up a wide verity of food (much of which isn't meat) and already hunted/sliced meat so we don't have to do it, we still choose to go out of our way to hunt/fish/kill animals to eat. It's in our nature, it's part of what we do naturally, so much so that even when we have piles of already hunted/killed meat at a store, many of us go kill animals and eat them anyways, it's just part of our nature.

I fish all the time, I cut their heads off, rip their guts out then cook and eat them. I don't do it cause I need food, I have a store nearby that I can buy already set fish/meat/non-meat products, I do it because I get a primal excitement when doing it, when catching fish and bringing it home to eat, it's in our nature, it's part of who we are as a race. When a fish bites your hook, there's a level of excitement that is unique because it comes from your natural instinct to hunt, and I am sure it is probably the same when you land a shot on a legal animal during legal hunting season.
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And that is the comment of someone who has never known someone who deserved death. I know this will offend you - and probably GrappleRetarded - but not all killing is wrong. If you kill an animal for the meat and enjoy yourself while doing it - that's not wrong. If you kill someone who is a threat to others - that is not wrong.

That General is one of the most highly regarded men in the United States military by his men. For being fair and empathetic to their and the civilians needs. There is at least one story of him personally going to the home of a civilian who had been caught in the crossfire and talking to the man's widow personally. Is that a corrupt man? I don't think so.



I wouldn't call that a great film. Everyone has to draw that line. Hunting isn't that line. It's why it's legal and considered helpful in many communities. An extreme case of violence is ****, murder, assault with a deadly weapon... not deer hunting.
Shutter Island is a great film. It's very thought provoking and much deeper than it appears on the surface - which is just another thriller type film (and a good one at that).

Hunting for the wrong reasons is where to draw the line. As I said earlier, hunting for food or for other ethical issues which affect your well-being is fine and perfectly acceptable.

How ever, any human beings that gain satisfaction from randomly killing animals (not for food) indicates that there is a problem with that persons mind set. It's just wrong.
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Hughes wasn't hunting these animals for food or to feed the locales, (even though he implies that's what he went over for). That wasn't his intention. His goal was to fly over to Africa and kill some exotic animals....for pleasure. Nothing else. He killed those animals because he finds it fun to kill them.

I have no problem with folk hunting as a means for food and to survive, what I do have a problem with, are sick human beings who kill animals for pleasure and their own satisfaction.

What kind of sick freak looks at some of those beautiful animals and says to themselves; "I'd love to put a bullet through it's head, just for fun!".

I'm an animal lover, so seeing things like this go on disgust me really. If you're hunting for food, or for over population issues then there is no problem what so ever. Killing those creatures for fun?

Get the fck outta here with that shit.

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Otay? Ummm..., all he kept was the hide and antlers. The meat stayed there, where it went to feed the locals. I've hunted in Africa so I know first hand that is what happens.

You have no problem with someone hunting to feed themselves but you do have a problem with someone hunting to feed others? What kinda sense does that make?
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There's a very clear reason why in 2012, when we can go into a store and pick up a wide verity of food (much of which isn't meat) and already hunted/sliced meat so we don't have to do it, we still choose to go out of our way to hunt/fish/kill animals to eat. It's in our nature, it's part of what we do naturally, so much so that even when we have piles of already hunted/killed meat at a store, many of us go kill animals and eat them anyways, it's just part of our nature.

I fish all the time, I cut their heads off, rip their guts out then cook and eat them. I don't do it cause I need food, I have a store nearby that I can buy already set fish/meat/non-meat products, I do it because I get a primal excitement when doing it, when catching fish and bringing it home to eat, it's in our nature, it's part of who we are as a race. When a fish bites your hook, there's a level of excitement that is unique because it comes from your natural instinct to hunt, and I am sure it is probably the same when you land a shot on a legal animal during legal hunting season.

Lets just make it clear i have no problem with hunting, its obviously something that is needed to survive. But you make good points it probably is exciting but so are a lot of things i would consider wrong...

I get a primal excitement from landing punches in training, feels great - but we are both willing - having your fun at the expense of another life will never sit right with me, its not something i would feel right to do myself.

Ive fished...its alright, when you catch something. Put it in your net, count them up at the end then let them go - you get your hunting buzz.
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As a die-hard Vegan ....

Killing for food, I can live with. It's what we've done for centuries, I'm not over the moon people still do it but I tolerate it.

Killing for fashion (ie. fur etc), Jewellery (eg. Ivory) or just to have a head to hang on your wall is unnecessary killing, it's senseless, in terms of fashion it's superficial and I class it as senseless and moronic on the humans part.

Matt Hughes I don't have a lot of time for as a person, but I think he's within his rights to do what he did.
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No. Football is a man's sport. MMA is a man's sport. Hunting for fun is for the weakest of the weak. In a sport, both sides know they're in the game. Taking a gun and shooting an innocent creature for fun has nothing to do with being a "man". I feel sorry for you and your values.
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