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Old 10-27-2012, 07:35 PM   #41 (permalink)
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No. Football is a man's sport. MMA is a mans sport. Hunting for fun is for the weakest of the weak. In a sport, both sides know they're in the game. Taking a gun and shooting an innocent creature for fun has nothing to do with being a "man". I feel sorry for you and your values.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:36 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Lets just make it clear i have no problem with hunting, its obviously something that is needed to survive. But you make good points it probably is exciting but so are a lot of things i would consider wrong...

I get a primal excitement from landing punches in training, feels great - but we are both willing - having your fun at the expense of another life will never sit right with me, its not something i would feel right to do myself.

Ive fished...its alright, when you catch something. Put it in your net, count them up at the end then let them go - you get your hunting buzz.
And it's fine that you personally would not get excited out of it, countless others do, and just because they do does not mean they are "morally corrupt", it's part of our natural instincts, many of us don't feel bad about it because of how we naturally feel, not because we are sickos who are morally corrupt.

Unless you are calling nature "morally corrupt", there's no moral corruption or moral weakness or whatever, it's just what humans do as animals, as big apes, our ape cousins tend to eat things alive a lot of the time, just be happy we have evolved passed that into at least making sure our meal is dead before we eat it.

Disagreeing with it personally is one thing, calling people who do it for fun (because it's natural to do so) morally corrupt is another.
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Shutter Island is a great film. It's very thought provoking and much deeper than it appears on the surface - which is just another thriller type film (and a good one at that).

Hunting for the wrong reasons is where to draw the line. As I said earlier, hunting for food or for other ethical issues which affect your well-being is fine and perfectly acceptable.

How ever, any human beings that gain satisfaction from randomly killing animals (not for food) indicates that there is a problem with that persons mind set. It's just wrong.
If you found it thought provoking more power to you. I found it simply boring. Exceedingly well made but nothing particularly thought provoking about it. I don't care for twist ending movies where I can see the ending coming a mile away.

Anyways the article you linked too involved a man hunting, keeping a trophy, and giving the meat to people less fortunate than himself. What is wrong about that?

And, let me address a thought that has popped more than a few times here, a hunter's enjoyment does not come from killing the animal. It is not a pop at the death of it. It is enjoyment of the hunt itself. The experience rather than the kill. Most of the hunters I have known love animals. They respect them.

You guys cannot tell me you honestly believe they are going into the woods solely to pop a hard on when the deer dies? If so you've never been hunting and don't know anyone who has.
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Disagreeing with it personally is one thing, calling people who do it for fun (because it's natural to do so) morally corrupt is another.
Ahh dont take that to hard, i just couldnt think of a better word to express my self.
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Ahh dont take that to hard, i just couldnt think of a better word to express my self.
I'm not taking it hard, you'd be surprised how many groups of people I think believe in immoral things and say it to their face, I'm just making a debate/discussion out of it (as I would telling them I think their beliefs are immoral, it's all just for debate/discussion).
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Been a hunter and gun owner my entire life. Also served my Country for over a decade. My Right, my business. Although, I do not kill anything I am not willing to feed my family with. But that is a personal choice. I certainly do not demonize those who do it for sport. That is their business, and their Right.
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Been a hunter and gun owner my entire life. Also served my Country for over a decade. My Right, my business. Although, I do not kill anything I am not willing to feed my family with. But that is a personal choice. I certainly do not demonize those who do it for sport. That is their business, and their Right.
I'm not a hunter, gun owner, or military and I agree with everything you just said.
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I live in Western NY. A lot of people hunt. Not the dumb hunting clubs they do in more populated areas. But actual hunting. I'm not a hunter, but many of the people I associate with are. I fish a little bit. I see nothing wrong with hunting. Around here whitetails are overpopulated because of loss of predators. Hunting basically helps prevent over-population.

I see nothing wrong with hunting. Real hunting..
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I'm not a hunter, but I do love to fish. I don't live near a lot of lakes, but I do go on a weekly fishing trip each year, and I try to get out on a few weekends well. I love the idea of catching my own meal -- I think it's something that is under appreciated in this day and age.

I have nothing against hunters who track their mark/kill. And much more respect if said hunter actually hunting for the meat, instead of just for sport. Still, I don't get all uptight about people hunting for sport.

What I do hate is so called "hunting", where some "guide" on a Safari drives 300m away from an elephant or some other animal, puts a rifle in some idiots hands, and they go on a shooting spree and kill everything in sight.

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Yeah. That shit is stupid. Those are the people who are flat killing to give themselves a rush.
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