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Old 11-01-2012, 08:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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At the moment, JDS' take down defense is just like how Machida's TDD was hyped up before he fought Jon Jones, or an elite level wrestler who's game plan was to take him down. (Note, Rashad Evans wasn't committed to taking the fight to the ground).

JDS' TDD still hasn't really been tested from a truly elite level wrestler, just like Machidas hadn't before he fought Jon.

Jon Jones scooped up Machida like he was a toy and dumped him onto his ass. That's the calibre of wrestler Jon Jones is. Dos Santos isn't on this kids level. Bulked up, Jon would toss Junior to the floor and brutalise him with elbows.
So you are saying JDS's TDD hasn't been tested...although he hasn't really had much trouble defending or getting right back up.

But then somehow you seem to "know" that Jones...a 205er....who fights 185ers would ragdoll JDS?

Didn't Jones struggle to get Rampage down early in the fight before Page faded?

JDS would land 1 big uppercut and it would be over...at least I think.

If Bones really is this beastly and is able to truly toss the undisputed HW Champ around....then it is really a shame he is wasting his time fighting guys who failed in 185 title fights..
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I would like to see Jones fight someone like Overeem first. Who knows, he might even have the belt before Jones moves up anyway.

Even though these guys are bigger, Jones still has the reach advantage and he uses it.

JDS is a great boxer, but he'd be outranged by Jones with no recourse for a takedown.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So you are saying JDS's TDD hasn't been tested...although he hasn't really had much trouble defending or getting right back up.

But then somehow you seem to "know" that Jones...a 205er....who fights 185ers would ragdoll JDS?

Didn't Jones struggle to get Rampage down early in the fight before Page faded?

JDS would land 1 big uppercut and it would be over...at least I think.

If Bones really is this beastly and is able to truly toss the undisputed HW Champ around....then it is really a shame he is wasting his time fighting guys who failed in 185 title fights..
He says Cain can do the same thing to Junior, yet a one legged Junior knocked him out.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I would like to see Jones fight someone like Overeem first. Who knows, he might even have the belt before Jones moves up anyway.

Even though these guys are bigger, Jones still has the reach advantage and he uses it.

JDS is a great boxer, but he'd be outranged by Jones with no recourse for a takedown.
Machida at what little stubby reach? Was able to connect on Jones. You are saying JDS...a superior boxer would get out "ranged" all night? You think he would sit at the end of his punches all night?

Jones has no standing KO power at 205. So he probably will have less at HW unless he goes OVEREEM on us. JDS would walk right through any weak jabs Jones had and land his own devastating shots.

Not everything is about reach. Reach certainly helps. But to say a striker like JDS would get out-boxed all night by Jones's weak punches is a little out there.

Miguel Torres had a huge reach for 135. Very technical. Good boxer. And he got caught a few times and finished by guys giving up a half a foot of reach. Timing and technical polished skills are better to have than reach.

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You see...in the heavyweight business all it takes is one shot. We've seen it with Buster Douglas vs Tyson and Rachman vs Lewis. But JDS is no underdog nor a fluke. Every fight the LHW title holder has been hit...if he gets hit by JDS or any HW for that matter it's gonna be tough to recuperate.

Struve should be the first one to test em followed by Cain then the champ or JDS should he lose then Cain.

Actually I'd like to see Frank Mir vs the LHW champ too...
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JDS would Murder Jones.... The size difference right now already isn't that big of a deal....It's not like JDS is a huge HW...
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JDS would Murder Jones.... The size difference right now already isn't that big of a deal....It's not like JDS is a huge HW... He weighed in at 239 versus Carwin...
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JDS wants no part of Jones. JDS's best bet would be to convince JBJ that he has a reason to stay at LHW. When JBJ goes to HW that title and division are his.

BTW this is what all you JDS nut huggers sound like.

Seriously though, I hope at some point we do get to see these two fight, I think it could be a good fight.
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At the moment, JDS' take down defense is just like how Machida's TDD was hyped up before he fought Jon Jones, or an elite level wrestler who's game plan was to take him down. (Note, Rashad Evans wasn't committed to taking the fight to the ground).

JDS' TDD still hasn't really been tested from a truly elite level wrestler, just like Machidas hadn't before he fought Jon.

Jon Jones scooped up Machida like he was a toy and dumped him onto his ass. That's the calibre of wrestler Jon Jones is. Dos Santos isn't on this kids level. Bulked up, Jon would toss Junior to the floor and brutalise him with elbows.

Junior isn't 205lbs.
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