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Old 11-01-2012, 10:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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So you are saying JDS's TDD hasn't been tested...although he hasn't really had much trouble defending or getting right back up.

But then somehow you seem to "know" that Jones...a 205er....who fights 185ers would ragdoll JDS?

Didn't Jones struggle to get Rampage down early in the fight before Page faded?

JDS would land 1 big uppercut and it would be over...at least I think.

If Bones really is this beastly and is able to truly toss the undisputed HW Champ around....then it is really a shame he is wasting his time fighting guys who failed in 185 title fights..
I said his TDD hasn't been tested against a truly elite level wrestler who has fully committed to take downs and a game plan. Just like Machida, before he ran into Jones. Remember? Machida had the best TDD ever according to the majority of fans. That opinion seemed to change in a heart beat after Jones tossed him to the ground like a dogs chew toy and murdered him with elbows.

Jones isn't wasting any thing. He's going to go down in history as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter to ever exist. Love him, hate him, what ever, it doesn't matter. The kid is just too freakishly talented. After he's dried out the LHW division of every contender available, he'll then set his sights on HW and conquer that division too.

Also your pop at Vitor Belfort was unnecessary really. A failed 185'er, who happened to also be a former 205lb champion.

You think JDS would land one big uppercut, that's fine. If we're still here if that fight ever gets booked in the future, we can make a fun bet.

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He says Cain can do the same thing to Junior, yet a one legged Junior knocked him out.
Now you're in no position to call out any one on making bold claims are you Mr "let's support fighters pre-fight for months on end and ram it down every other members throats about how they're guaranteed to win, and then when they lose, instantly stop supporting said fighter(s) and pretend I didn't say any thing".

So please, pipe down sport. I'll deal with you nearer the Cain/JDS fight and give you a signature you'll never be able to erase.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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^so many ill-informed opinions and straw-men arguments without justifying them with reality. Saying Junior's never been tested and Machida had the best TDD, give me a break.

Junior is the formula to beating Jones. It's a ridiculously terrible matchup for him on paper, Junior has something around an 88% TDD and he's stopped the shots of Cain and Carwin with ease. Jones would need to spend a good 6 months with Freddie Roach to survive with Junior. JDS has better TDD stats than guys like GSP and Liddell yet you say he's not that good at TDD, I mean, you are just pulling this stuff out of thin air. Go tell on me again, maybe that'll help.

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^so many ill-informed opinions and straw-men arguments without justifying them with reality. Saying Junior's never been tested and Machida had the best TDD, give me a break.

Junior is the formula to beating Jones. It's a ridiculously terrible matchup for him on paper, Junior has something around an 88% TDD and he's stopped the shots of Cain and Carwin with ease. Jones would need to spend a good 6 months with Freddie Roach to survive with Junior
Machida has a current 83 percent TDD ratio. Keep in mind, this is after the Jones fight occurred. Before the Jones fight it was obviously higher, we can't know what percent exactly, but I'd estimate it to be around the 86 percent mark.

That's almost identical to Junior Dos Santos' TDD percentage you're so keen to throw into your arguments.

The only one it seems with ill-informed opinions appears to be you.

Statistics and percentages only mean so much. It's all relative to a number of other factors and possibilities.
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Cigano would probably beat any fighter currently on the UFC roster imo. I don't only say that because i'm probably his biggest fan on this site after Khov, you just have to look at his record, his opponents, and how easily he's beaten everyone. Jones would get wrecked within two rounds.
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Cigano would probably beat any fighter currently on the UFC roster imo. I don't only say that because i'm probably his biggest fan on this site after Khov, you just have to look at his record, his opponents, and how easily he's beaten everyone. Jones would get wrecked within two rounds.
You know we're cool man, but Jones has a better record, has defeated better opponents and has arguably beaten them in more devastating fashion.
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Machida has a current 83 percent TDD ratio. Keep in mind, this is after the Jones fight occurred. Before the Jones fight it was obviously higher, we can't know what percent exactly, but I'd estimate it to be around the 86 percent mark.

That's almost identical to Junior Dos Santos' TDD percentage you're so keen to throw into your arguments.

The only one it seems with ill-informed opinions appears to be you.

Statistics and percentages only mean so much. It's all relative to a number of other factors and possibilities.
hah! You have no idea what you are talking about, literally. Machida has an 80% TDD, Jones had a 50% takedown success rate in that fight only attempting 2 takedowns. Oh wait, you have no idea what you are talking about and you just pull arguments out of thin air to suit your case which is absolute bullshit, now go tell on me, I swore.

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hah! You have no idea what you are talking about, literally. Machida has an 80% TDD, Jones had a 50% takedown success rate in that fight only attempting 2 takedowns. Oh wait, you have no idea what you are talking about and you just pull arguments out of thin air to suit your case which is absolute bullshit, now go tell on me, I swore.
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Official UFC statistics. You really think I'm making random arguments up out of thin air? I mean really?

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On the off chance anyone who works at the UFC reads this board. I would pay $200 for Jones vs Junior on PPV and you wouldn't even have to have an under card. Just that one, 30 second fight.
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I said his TDD hasn't been tested against a truly elite level wrestler who has fully committed to take downs and a game plan. Just like Machida, before he ran into Jones. Remember? Machida had the best TDD ever according to the majority of fans. That opinion seemed to change in a heart beat after Jones tossed him to the ground like a dogs chew toy and murdered him with elbows.

Jones isn't wasting any thing. He's going to go down in history as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter to ever exist. Love him, hate him, what ever, it doesn't matter. The kid is just too freakishly talented. After he's dried out the LHW division of every contender available, he'll then set his sights on HW and conquer that division too.

Also your pop at Vitor Belfort was unnecessary really. A failed 185'er, who happened to also be a former 205lb champion.

You think JDS would land one big uppercut, that's fine. If we're still here if that fight ever gets booked in the future, we can make a fun bet.



Now you're in no position to call out any one on making bold claims are you Mr "let's support fighters pre-fight for months on end and ram it down every other members throats about how they're guaranteed to win, and then when they lose, instantly stop supporting said fighter(s) and pretend I didn't say any thing".

So please, pipe down sport. I'll deal with you nearer the Cain/JDS fight and give you a signature you'll never be able to erase.
lol, I love how you keep saying that. You try to make it seem like I stopped supporting Chael full stop yet I was all over him and was predicting him to KO Forrest. I gave Anderson his props and I still root for the American Gangster and always will.

Btw, I'm sure a true band wagon fan wouldn't have signed up with a Lyoto Machida username when he was on a two fight skid. Just because I move on and replaced all my Chael stuff with BJ stuff doesn't make me a band wagon fan, it just means I don't dwell on losses.

If you really have that much confidence in a guy who got ko'ed in 64 seconds by a one legged man, then kudos to you. But you're clearly just a butthurt Cain fan who believes the first fight was a fluke, when it was proof that Junior can put Cain out embarrassingly quick fashion if he chooses.
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I said his TDD hasn't been tested against a truly elite level wrestler who has fully committed to take downs and a game plan. Just like Machida, before he ran into Jones. Remember? Machida had the best TDD ever according to the majority of fans. That opinion seemed to change in a heart beat after Jones tossed him to the ground like a dogs chew toy and murdered him with elbows.

Jones isn't wasting any thing. He's going to go down in history as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter to ever exist. Love him, hate him, what ever, it doesn't matter. The kid is just too freakishly talented. After he's dried out the LHW division of every contender available, he'll then set his sights on HW and conquer that division too.

Also your pop at Vitor Belfort was unnecessary really. A failed 185'er, who happened to also be a former 205lb champion.

You think JDS would land one big uppercut, that's fine. If we're still here if that fight ever gets booked in the future, we can make a fun bet.



Now you're in no position to call out any one on making bold claims are you Mr "let's support fighters pre-fight for months on end and ram it down every other members throats about how they're guaranteed to win, and then when they lose, instantly stop supporting said fighter(s) and pretend I didn't say any thing".

So please, pipe down sport. I'll deal with you nearer the Cain/JDS fight and give you a signature you'll never be able to erase.
I used to think you were a decent poster, but your a goof. "Sport"?

Who haven't I supported? Erick Silva? What should I say? I'm in no position to talk after him losing. Does that mean I now don't support him?

Maybe I missed everyone saying it. But I don't remember people saying Machida would stuff Jones' TDs Everyone picked Bones so obviously they figured he would get a TD and work from there. No one figured he would win by striking for 5 rounds...peoples expected him to take Machida down. People thought Machida had a very good base for a guy who was never a wrestler. But his TDD was never proven. He got trip took down by Shogun. The only wrestler he stuffed was a crusty Tito. Rashad never tried. I think you are exaggerating here.

There is a difference between a natural 6 foot 205er with good TDD and a 6'4 240lb fighter with TDD. Would you not think this? Why did you ignore the Rampage example?

It wasn't a pop at Vitor. It was a pop at Jones. Vitor is 35 and the what 4th best MW? Jones accepted a fight with him. He is now accepting a fight with Sonnen another failed 185er who is also what? 36?....who couldn't beat the 185 champ...yet Jones is going to take him on for the 205 title? He was going to fight Hendo (huge Hendo fan) but he is a 41 year old man who'd body wouldn't allow him to fight at 185. And these are great title defenses. When Anderson already put them all away. So he will have 2 defenses in a row over 185ers. Machida doesn't even really cut weight either.

Perhaps it isn't to you. But to me, if Jones is this beastly it is a shame he is spending months to do a show to fight a 185er who lost last time out. If he truly does go to HW by 2013 he will have wasted 2 title shots fighting MW fighters.

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