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Old 11-02-2012, 08:07 AM   #41 (permalink)
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JDS would wreck bones within 2 rounds. I honestly think the size difference, the power difference and the speed of JDS would be too much for bones.
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JDS would wreck bones within 2 rounds. I honestly think the size difference, the power difference and the speed of JDS would be too much for bones.
Same.

Just thinking of someone the size of JDS and skilled as JDS swinging full force at Jones is a scary thought. He wouldnt get wobbled like he did against Machida... he would get flat out knocked out.

Its possible he can take JDS down and get the win that way but i seriously doubt it. JDS takes the fight 4 out of 5 times. (IMO)
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Yeah because Cain Velasquez is the same level of wrestler that a washed up Tito was gimme a break.

Cain is as good a wrestler as Jones. His wrestling style is different but twice as relentless. His standup is weaker than Jones, but JDS' standup is still better than both.

JDS all day.
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Maybe i'm a fan boy but i've watched JDS spar with Shogun (granted Junior has improved alot since then) and I think that Anderson would hand him his first KO loss if the two ever fought. Unfortunately it will never happen..

Imagine if Anderson beat GSP, Bones and JDS and then retired like a boss.

I don't think Andy could beat the big wrestlers in the HW div. but I definitely think he'd beat the strikers.
I agree with Silva beating the HW strikers including Dos Santos. In fact, Dos Santos looks like to be tailor made. No TD threat and even if it gets to the ground, no real offensive submission threat. He only boxes, while Silva uses literally EVERY striking tool to be ever invented and he drops people with jabs while walking backwards. Dos Santos may have the best striking timing on the current HW roster, but it's nowhere close to Silva's. With Silva being able to dodge Belfort's hands, Dos Santos couldn't rely on that huge overhand right he dropped Velasquez with, and technical striking is Silva's domain.

With the wrestlers, I'm not sure. A 203ish Silva certainly would be in trouble IF those wrestlers can get a hand on him (but keep in mind that their shots are much slower than Sonnen at 185), but if Silva bulked up and put on some muscles and fought at 230-240 his power would also massively increase his submission threat. So while they might get him down it's the question whether they really want to be on the ground with him.
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I agree with Silva beating the HW strikers including Dos Santos. In fact, Dos Santos looks like to be tailor made. No TD threat and even if it gets to the ground, no real offensive submission threat. He only boxes, while Silva uses literally EVERY striking tool to be ever invented and he drops people with jabs while walking backwards. Dos Santos may have the best striking timing on the current HW roster, but it's nowhere close to Silva's. With Silva being able to dodge Belfort's hands, Dos Santos couldn't rely on that huge overhand right he dropped Velasquez with, and technical striking is Silva's domain.

With the wrestlers, I'm not sure. A 203ish Silva certainly would be in trouble IF those wrestlers can get a hand on him (but keep in mind that their shots are much slower than Sonnen at 185), but if Silva bulked up and put on some muscles and fought at 230-240 his power would also massively increase his submission threat. So while they might get him down it's the question whether they really want to be on the ground with him.

I dont know about this Silva>JDS stuff.

Bonnar landed some decent shots on Anderson only they didnt phase Anderson.

JDS lands even one of those and it could be lights out. And he could use his size to push Anderson against the fence and then dirty box him to unconscious. JDS throws some vicious uppercuts.
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There's no doubt Jones is going to fight at HW but if he does, will it be for the title? Will this mean he will have to relinquish his LHW title?

He is fighting Chael next, then it will most likely be either winner of Gustaffson/Shogun or winner of Hendo/Machida. If he beats these guys then a big fight for him at the end of 2013 against a top HW needs to happen.
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Oh, this would be perfect for me.. Jones smashing Silva, then moving up to HW to get smashed by JDS, perfect-O.
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Now people are saying Anderson Silva can beat JDS? What the hell people?

JDS would wreck every single fighter in the LHW and MW division, no doubt about it.

I am literally lost for words by some of the comments in this thread.
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Now people are saying Anderson Silva can beat JDS? What the hell people?

JDS would wreck every single fighter in the LHW and MW division, no doubt about it.

I am literally lost for words by some of the comments in this thread.
I actually disagree quite a bit. I think Jones would have a legit chance of beating JDS. JDS is by no means a big HW, so if JBJ doesn't cut weight and bulks up a little during a training camp for that fight he could probably make up some of the lost ground. Now you have JDS at a reach disadvantage. Add in JBJ's TDs from the clinch, better cardio, and great top game and we have a fight on our hands.

I still think everyone overrates JDS's standup. Who has he fought that has decent standup? Most guys he faced aren't throwing combos and setting up techniques, they just throw crap and hope it lands.

BTW I am prepared for you to call me insane, say I have no clue what I am talking about, etc. It really doesn't matter to me, lets just see if JDS can hold onto that belt until JBJ gets there for his chance at it.
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Just commenting on one thing.

I actually did see alot of posts saying "Machida might be able to stop Jones takedowns since he has some of the best TDD which might make for an interesting fight"

Especially in replies to me saying that Machida does not have great takedown defense.

So yeah... just my 2 cents from what i saw.
Yea, perhaps there were a fair share who believed so. There are a lot of Machida fans here and a lot of people who don't care for Jones. But a strong % I know picked Jones to win the fight. And if I remember no one really had Jones landing a KO or putting on a clinic for 5 rounds. So I assume most figured Jones would win, by beating him up on the ground.

Machida's TDD to that point....like the OP says about JDS was "not tested". To that point Machida got trip took down by Shogun. He fought Rashad but he didn't try to take him down. The only real wrestler he fought to that point was a 46 year old Randy and a washed up broken down Tito. Both slow as hell while Machida is probably the quickest/most elusive.

What I was trying to tell him is 6 foot 205 lb Machida's good TDD or 6 foot 4 240lb JDS's good TDD. I'm assuming Jds will be much harder to take down than Machida.
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