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Old 11-02-2012, 08:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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id bet money chael sonnen has drove intoxicated before lol.

Generally speaking, in America, if you dont live in some big city where you can get a taxi by standing on the sidewalk and you do drink... You have probably drove drunk atleast once in your life time.
This is complete bs. I have lived in small towns and big cities and have known far more people who have never driven drunk than ones who have.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree with the other posters, I bet Chael is a really nice guy. There are plenty of interviews where people say that he is just a personality in front of the cameras, but otherwise is a great guy.

The best example I can give is that after he beat Okami he let Okami train with him. How many guys actually do that?
Can't understand multiple standards ppl will have when trying to keep a fake reality up.
Either you're nice or not. So after all discriminatory crap Sonnen spread from his mouth(even against kids), failed TRT test, money loundry and undeserved title shot that are shaking the Sport's credibility he is a "nice" guy because he let Okami train with him? And this, by your own words, is the best example you have...

I can go with his attitudes granting him a bunch of followers that will find it entertaining, but don't give me the "He is actually very nice for those who actually get to know him" crap. I am positive even Al Capone was considered a nice guy for some ppl closer to him.


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Old 11-02-2012, 09:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I think its been mentioned before that Sonnen is actually a pretty nice guy off camera, its only when the spotlight is on him is when he talks alot of crap.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I think its been mentioned before that Sonnen is actually a pretty nice guy off camera, its only when the spotlight is on him is when he talks alot of crap.
He is a stand up comedian. He will be nice depending of which side of the joke you are.


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Old 11-03-2012, 01:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah some of it you can.

I dont consider him to be Fake, a Douchbag, or a scumbag. He certainly is a liar but its very obvious lies that its basically funny. For instance when he denied saying the Lance comment while the guy played a audio clip of him actually saying it. And he said "That does not sound like me at all. I thought you were kidding tbh" that had me and my friends laughing for hours.


The only thing he did that i think was Douchey/Scumbaggish was the comment he made about the Brazilian kids playing in the mud.

Well i take the douchebag comment back. Thinking about it Chael is certainly a douchebag but a funny douchebag.


Anyway it doesnt really matter. Chael and Jones are 2 very different people that behave very differently. Chael comes off as a good guy playing the bad guy role while Jones is a bad guy pretending to be a good guy. And he is doing a horrible job at it since just about everyone can see past it.

Lucky for me my personal feelings for the guy dont make his talent any less enjoyable to watch.
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the thing is

Chael does it for the fun of it and making $$$, he's obviously faking his persona
Jones does it because he wants to be liked and thinks he's genuinely fooling people with his act (and it works for some)

Chael is an adult, Jones is a kid
Chael probably perfectly knows who he is as a person, Jones still seems in the "post teen age" phase when he's still figuring out who he is.
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I don't know where people came up with the love to hate him nonsense. It's like they use that as an excuse about why no one likes him. When in reality I'd love ro like Jones. Hell there was a time me and many others liked him. And then he started getting more exposure and we saw him say or do stupid things over and over again.

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In terms of scumbaggery....

drunk driving and endangering the lives of others > harmless money laundering and tweaking your testosterone level

Easily. Chael Sonnen has never put anyone's life in jeopardy. Jon Jones has.
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Those crimes are not a big deal to me. And that has nothing to do with my comments anyway. I consider Jones a fake douchebag for many different reasons and his crimes are the least of it.

There is no double standard here since Jones hasnt done the same things Chael has. If he DID the same things Chael has and then i liked Chael but didnt like Jones... THEN id be employing a double standard.

And btw i did admit to Chael being a douchebag. Read more then 1 sentence will yah.
All of this is completely deluded and fairly ******* retarded. Fail Sonnen is a liar, fake, douchebag, idiot... Persona or not, Fail has told several outright lies, but none of you idiots hate him for it. The simple fact that he has a public persona means he is fake, yet you don't hate him for it? He's clearly a douche, and despite what some idiot said, there's nothing funny about it, and one of you retards said that's part of the reason you're swinging on his nutsack? Yet, you consider Bones all of those, but you do hate him for it. To whichever moron was failing miserably to explain how that double standard isn't a double standard, THAT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!! Just shut the **** up already.

[quote=MMA-Sportsman;1644012]He is a stand up comedian. He will be nice depending of which side of the joke you are.

He's not a stand up comedian, he's a joke.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:45 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said, duckyou, but can we dispense with the childish little nicknames you have for every fighter you despise? You seem to hate a lot of fighters and it's really, really irritating reading them being called middle school level bad nicknames. Even when I happen to hate the fighter too.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:10 AM   #27 (permalink)
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All of this is completely deluded and fairly ******* retarded. Fail Sonnen is a liar, fake, douchebag, idiot... Persona or not, Fail has told several outright lies, but none of you idiots hate him for it. The simple fact that he has a public persona means he is fake, yet you don't hate him for it? He's clearly a douche, and despite what some idiot said, there's nothing funny about it, and one of you retards said that's part of the reason you're swinging on his nutsack? Yet, you consider Bones all of those, but you do hate him for it. To whichever moron was failing miserably to explain how that double standard isn't a double standard, THAT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!! Just shut the **** up already.

He's not a stand up comedian, he's a joke.
Lol...

Some people just dont get it. In EXAMPLE saying (without being asked i might add) "The UFC never has to worry about me doing something stupid like Driving Drunk and thats why they sponsored me" is not the same as "I saw Nog try to feed carrots to a bus".

Just cause they are both lies does not make it the same thing.

Or making comments like he is a god or something "I'm outraged. I'm outraged and you guys will see that." or "I will bless my fans by letting them buy my Tshirt"

or

"I would never fight Rashad he is like my brother--> Yeah id fight Rashad if Dana wanted the fight. I want to be a company guy --> Backs out of Main Event fight for nonsense reason and then lies about not knowing the Event would get cancelled if he didnt take the fight.

Or lets not forget about this little gem.

Jon Jones - "I would get rid of the replica belts ... I hate it when people come up to me with a belt that looks exactly like mine and they ask me to sign it. I worked three times a day for three years to get this [light heavyweight championship] belt, and now this guy asking me for an autograph has one just like it. Are you serious? I mean it’s not as heavy, but it looks just the same. I never sign those belts."

So he is mad because his FANs want him to sign FAKE PLASTIC belts??? He chooses not to sign them??? What a stand up nice guy Jones is to his fans!!!

The list goes on and on with this guy. This isnt even half of it. I didnt even mention the "Go get some fans" situation. The guy only checked on his opponent that he dropped like a sack of potatoes so he can gain fans. Lmao!

There is no double standards here.

But some people will never understand. So il just leave it off there because if this does not make you understand then nothing said will.


And UNLIKE CHAEL Jon Jones isnt hyping a fight in most of those comments.

The only ridiculous stuff Chael has said is when he was hyping the Anderson fight AND his hype brought millions of dollars in BOTH their pockets. If i was a fighter id hype fights too.
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Can't understand multiple standards ppl will have when trying to keep a fake reality up.
Either you're nice or not. So after all discriminatory crap Sonnen spread from his mouth(even against kids), failed TRT test, money loundry and undeserved title shot that are shaking the Sport's credibility he is a "nice" guy because he let Okami train with him? And this, by your own words, is the best example you have...

I can go with his attitudes granting him a bunch of followers that will find it entertaining, but don't give me the "He is actually very nice for those who actually get to know him" crap. I am positive even Al Capone was considered a nice guy for some ppl closer to him.


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This x 1000.

Oh yeah a TRT cheat, loan fraud, title shot jumping guy that says disgusting things about people's wives, countries, kids etc. is a "nice" guy because he is "energetic" after a workout, and lets a guy train with him after smashing him with the help of said cheating.

Chael is a douche. If he does all of this for money, it just makes him a greedy douche which makes it worse. Jones is just trying to keep things civil and nice as long as he can, because obviously the Chael nonsense would get on his nerves so he'd rather do without it.
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not surprised to read this, as most Sonnen interviews (when he doesn't have a fight to promote) are pretty laid back and you can see he's a nice guy. Still wanna see the season, even just because it's one few TUF seasons recently where the coach selection actually makes sense.
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the thing is

Chael does it for the fun of it and making $$$, he's obviously faking his persona
Jones does it because he wants to be liked and thinks he's genuinely fooling people with his act (and it works for some)

Chael is an adult, Jones is a kid
Chael probably perfectly knows who he is as a person, Jones still seems in the "post teen age" phase when he's still figuring out who he is.
Chael does it for cold hard cash, Jones does it because he wants to be loved. Well, one is more pathetic, but both are fakers
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