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View Poll Results: Stephan Bonnar deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. True or False?
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True
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11-05-2012, 12:31 AM
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#21 (permalink)
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Amateur
Join Date: May 2010
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How do we know he wasn't on something even during the ultimate fighter? Back then I wouldn't even be surprised if they weren't tested at all.
Reminds me of baseball where your have to deal with deciding if the cheating was bad enough to ignore what they did for the sport. Don't let Bonnar in the hall of fame, don't let him be an analyst, when he comes up say nothing but good things. People will forget....most people who pay attention to the UFC probably aren't even aware he tested positive at any point.
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11-05-2012, 12:32 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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Featherweight
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by 3DLee
I vote no for putting Bonnar in the HoF. But whats so wrong with having Mask in there? I mean, he was the face for the biggest MMA Clothing brand out there. TapouT has sponsored at one time or another all of the biggest fighters. They sponsor the undercards guys and local fighters too. They even had a show on Versus that I liked watching. TapouT has been huge for the sport. He died in an untimely fashion and was put in to the HoF as a great gesture to remember him. Hell, his name is still on the Octagon a lot. I went to the first UFC event after his passing, UFN 18 in Nashville, and they left an empty chair next to Punkass and Skyscrape. Because tapout sponsors soooo f'in many people and are really the first huge company to come out of MMA, I support Mask in the HoF.
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Agreed, I don't have too many problems putting mask in there. He basically pioneered MMA wear and sponsorship, but I wouldn't put him in there if he wasn't dead.
Fans might think its ridiculous because he's not a fighter and wore silly face paint, but you just have to think of him as being in the 'builder's' category, just like the hockey hall of fame has for non-players who contributed to the game
As for Bonnar, no. He simply wasn't good enough for era he was fighting. No belts, nothing really, just that one huge fight. If the UFC wants to make a category in the hall of fame for 'Hall of Fame fights' then fine, put Bonnar in there. Hall of Fames are supposed to celebrate excellence, Bonnar was an above average fighter who was caught cheating twice.
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11-05-2012, 01:17 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Like Bonnar, but not HoF material.
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11-05-2012, 06:31 AM
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The Recipe
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Location: Estonia
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What is the criteria of being in the hall of fame? Is it achievements? Helping the sport grow?
He did help the sport grow but based on achievements, not a chance. 8-7 inside the octagon, lost to every top fighter he faced, 2 time steroid user. He doesn't deserve it.
That said, Dana will put him in.
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11-05-2012, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Deserve it? no
Will he get in? Probably.
Part of the criteria has to be a juicing fighter must know how to properly cycle all PEDs.
Bonner failed that part.
No HOF for Stephen!!
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11-05-2012, 09:46 AM
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The Fun Police
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I voted Yes. Just because.
I'd be amazed if Forrest and Bonnar didnt get in eventually. Amazed.
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11-05-2012, 10:47 AM
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#27 (permalink)
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Speed Kills
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Originally Posted by Rauno
What is the criteria of being in the hall of fame? Is it achievements? Helping the sport grow?
He did help the sport grow but based on achievements, not a chance. 8-7 inside the octagon, lost to every top fighter he faced, 2 time steroid user. He doesn't deserve it.
That said, Dana will put him in.
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11-05-2012, 11:48 AM
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sport in no way would have grown as big and fast as it has with out Bonnar, that alone i think makes him deserving, on top of that every fight he came into put on a show not to win, he never had one boring fight that i can think of. He is not only a fighter but also has done countless commentary for the ufc as well.
He has done nothing but try and help the sport grow
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11-05-2012, 08:55 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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Bantamweight
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Originally Posted by Ansem
might aswell since its definitly not about the best fighters just people who've helped the sport grow.
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I disagree. They were all title holders, tournament winner, or superfight (open weight) champions.
We don't even have tournaments, or open weight classes anymore, so I don't have a problem with Shamrock, or Severn being in the HoF. Yes, I do belive they were also considered because they had a lot to do with growing the sport in the early days, but they were also at the top of the sport in their own time as well. There's no arguing that imo.
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11-05-2012, 11:05 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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Flyweight
Join Date: Mar 2011
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He himself will not be in any HoF, ever. However, his name and a picture with him in it will be. Griffin/Bonnar 1 was the fight that started the MMA boom. Griffin/Bonnar 1 should be in the HoF. I don't know whether the UFC adds that kinda shit or if they just stick to having iconic figures and fighters in in?
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