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Magog 11-06-2012 08:46 AM

Seriously why can't tuff have hw or lhw
 
I'm sick and tired of tuff doing 185 on down.

Look I love the lower weight classes. And yes. heavy weight is filled with fat, sloppy, over paid clumbst oafs.

I get that, but seriously it's good enough for a dying reality show. Sure you don't wanna do hw anymore, fine.

Why can't we have a lhw season of tuff? When was the last time this happened? Season3?

John8204 11-06-2012 09:49 AM

Season 8 was the last LHW season,

Ryan Bader, Jules Bruchez, Kyle Kingsbury, Shane Primm, Tom Lawlor, Vinny Magalh„es, Eliot Marshall, Krzysztof Soszynski, Antwain Britt, Lance Evans, Karn Grigoryan, Jason Guida, Ryan Jimmo, Ryan Lopez, Eric Magee, Sean O'Connell, Mike Stewart.

They don't do those seasons for two reasons

1. The fights are terrible.
2. The talent pool is too shallow, if you are good enough to make it on the show you are good enough for a shot in the UFC.

Joabbuac 11-06-2012 09:56 AM

If they threw in a few guy who are good enough to be in the UFC we would get a credible TUF. Most of the first few seasons were made up of fighters who could of been signed to the UFC.

Canadian Psycho 11-06-2012 10:05 AM

Did you watch TUF: Heavyweights...?

Rauno 11-06-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John8204 (Post 1644963)
2. The talent pool is too shallow, if you are good enough to make it on the show you are good enough for a shot in the UFC.

This would be a good reason imo.

Magog 11-06-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John8204 (Post 1644963)
Season 8 was the last LHW season,

Ryan Bader, Jules Bruchez, Kyle Kingsbury, Shane Primm, Tom Lawlor, Vinny Magalh„es, Eliot Marshall, Krzysztof Soszynski, Antwain Britt, Lance Evans, Karn Grigoryan, Jason Guida, Ryan Jimmo, Ryan Lopez, Eric Magee, Sean O'Connell, Mike Stewart.

They don't do those seasons for two reasons

1. The fights are terrible.
2. The talent pool is too shallow, if you are good enough to make it on the show you are good enough for a shot in the UFC.

Ah tuff 8 slipped my mine,, (for shame Ryan bader is a fav of mine).

We've seen shallow pitful talent pools from tuffs before.

The henderson vs Bisping season for example. The winner from 170 was pitful. Ross Person just lost to a guy who lost to Jens Pulver (the 155 winner).

So why can't we have a heavier tuff? Are you really telling me Ryan bader and Vinny what's his face aren't as talented as say MAc danzig? Seriously?

jonnyg4508 11-06-2012 11:04 AM

Lhws maybe. Who wants to watch low level hws? Ig it goes past 2 minutes it becomes an unwatchable fight most of the time

Magog 11-06-2012 11:08 AM

Here's a better example.. is Schaub that far away in talent than say Brookins?

Come on... don't bs me.

Magog 11-06-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyg4508 (Post 1644974)
Lhws maybe. Who wants to watch low level hws? Ig it goes past 2 minutes it becomes an unwatchable fight most of the time

And i'd be deeply appeased with lhw. seeing as how the lhw division is basically heavy weights forced to be in shape.

Toxic 11-06-2012 11:15 AM

The cardio issue. Many of the guys on TUF can't afford to train and fight full time and because of this they are not high level UFC caliber athletes. That is to be expected and is really unavoidable. Smaller guys though generally have better cardio which means they don't gas out as easily. That makes the fights look better on TV especially to people who are channel flipping and without a lot of reference points they likely don't realize they are smaller (the UFC uses a smaller cage for TUF).


Also please don't double post, if you want to add something edit it in.


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