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Rich Franklin 28 73.68%
Cung Le 10 26.32%
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:29 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I haven't forgotten how the fight went. Le obviously took the aforementioned two rounds, but I'd not call his final few seconds going at it with Wanderlei anything other than destruction. And while I agree that Le gassed terribly, I'd like to give Silva a shred of credit for bringing a fairly ferocious pace.

T'was just a bit of MMA math for shits and giggles, lads. Nothing more.
I wasn't speaking of you specifically, though admittedly that really wasn't clear from my post. But fans in general, not just of MMA, tend to have a recall bias when it comes to athletes they support.

I mean, Le obviously wasn't getting the credit he deserved before this fight, and I think one of the reasons for that is that Wanderlei's successful flurry against a gassed Le outshines the two rounds Le spent picking Wandy apart earlier in most fans' memories.

But it is in fact those two rounds that give a more accurate indication of Le's level of skill.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:46 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Damn that was disappointing for a Franklin fan. After Franklin landed that first combo in close, I thought he was a far superior striker. I figured it was only a matter of time until he opened up and got the ko/tko. Then the punch came.

Le looked very slow and flat footed. I don't think he was mentally ready for the fight. I feel like he almost was expecting to lose until he saw the opening.

Oh well. It will be interesting to see where Franklin goes from here. I hope he stays at 185. There are a lot of interesting matches for him.
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Problem with watching the fights afterwards


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I like both these guys quite a bit, but figured this would be Le's retirement bout. I was going to place a little wager on him before listening to him on the MMA Hour and talking about not being really that close to 100% with his foot and hearing how he'd probably pull out of the fight if it were not in China (don't remember if that line was specifically from the MMA hour interview though). I figured he'd look terrible and get taken down and look bad. So I took Franklin in a handful of parlays and paid the price.

Good for Cung, not sure what's next for Rich. This has to be absolutely devastating for him. From the sounds of it, he really took the fight seriously and I cannot imagine him taking Cung lightly.
Was somewhat shocked to see how low he left his hands there, the beauty of slow-mo replays shines again.

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This is so true, I remember downloading prelim fights individually that were capped from the UFC vault back before they were televised/on fb/youtube etc. and when opening the video to cover the part of my media player that showed the timer until it disappeared with my hands just to avoid this problem, haha. I was about 30% successful as I'd invariably move the mouse or do something else that would cause it to pop back up and let me know for example that it's a 18 min video and a guaranteed decision win. Knowing for sure there's no finish certainly takes some of the luster away from a bout.
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If Franklin is on the fence about retirement he should just retire. That was brutal.

Perhaps 1 more fight and go out on a win. But he has nothing left to prove. Not sure who to match him up with though.
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Seriously, I wish Le was younger. He would be a force in the UFC and we wouldn't be talking about retirement in the same sentence. Such a shame. Incredible KO though!!
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Wanderlei defeats Cung Le.
Franklin defeats Wanderlei.
Cung Le defeats Franklin.

Classic.
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Wanderlei defeats Cung Le.
Franklin defeats Wanderlei.
Cung Le defeats Franklin.

Classic.
Funny isn't it, although Cung was beating Wandy. He's obviously got the skills, but he's really old. Franklin was setting a frantic pace and was going to wear him out eventually, but damn that was a nice counter.

Cung switched his game plan cuz he knew Franklin was timing his kicks and trying to land a counter left. Instead he waited for him to punch and countered with a right.
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But it is in fact those two rounds that give a more accurate indication of Le's level of skill.
His skill isn't the issue.

It's his gas tank and his ability to take damage.

The Wanderlei fight didn't prove anything imo, other than the fact that Silva can still KO anyone stupid enough to stand in front of him.

The Scott Smith fight, however, showed that Le doesn't have the chin or the conditioning to survive against heavy hitters, even exhausted, half dead heavy hitters with literally one tool in their toolbox.

But what really bothered me about that fight was the Le was given the rematch. That was a pure case of `oh, the wrong guy won, do over!'

Where as it should have been, 'let's build Scott Smith up based on his nasty come from behind upset KO of Cung Le'.

Instead, they gave Le a do-over and Smith lost all the well-earned momentum he had just gained from the biggest win of his career.

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