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Old 11-08-2012, 09:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't think there's anything such as a lucky shot. Fists are thrown with the intention of hitting someone's chin. If you can finish your opponent it sends a clear message.
I think there are lucky punches. Same thing as a full court shot in basketball. Was his intention to make it? Sure. Was it a lucky shot? Absolutely.


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Old 11-08-2012, 09:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:55 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So Anderson is going to challenge GSP after the fight? I know Dana talks alot but he better not be bullshitting. I also hope GSP accepts.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't think there's anything such as a lucky shot. Fists are thrown with the intention of hitting someone's chin. If you can finish your opponent it sends a clear message.
Yea I never understood this either. Sure if one guy is getting his ass handed to him and isn't landing much all fight...then out of no where he lands a KO punch...that could be considered sort of lucky...as he was outmatched all fight.

But like you said, fighters intend to put their fist or foot to chin. If they pull off what they are TRYING to do, how is it luck? Never understood that. I can't recall a semi-recent fight ending in luck or something that can be considered luck.
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]I don't think there's anything such as a lucky shot. [/b]Fists are thrown with the intention of hitting someone's chin. If you can finish your opponent it sends a clear message.
I very much agree, with the exception of Kongo ktfo Pat Berry, I think that was a lucky punch for the most part.

GSP may not always be exciting but he is pretty dominant..imo
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I very much agree, with the exception of Kongo ktfo Pat Berry, I think that was a lucky punch for the most part.

GSP may not always be exciting but he is pretty dominant..imo
Sort of. He was more lucky he was clear headed enough to throw an accurate punch.

But if a guy, let alone HW charges in with his hands down and no thought of defense...he should expect to get KO'd.
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I don't think there's anything such as a lucky shot. Fists are thrown with the intention of hitting someone's chin. If you can finish your opponent it sends a clear message.
Yes and no. As mentioned before, having a shotgun or machine gun strategy of overwhelming an opponent isn't lucky if its done in the right way against the right opponent.

HOWEVER, simply having the intention of doing something and then doing it, doesn't mean it wasn't lucky, I can say, I intend to score a half court shot facing away from the basket and actually do it, but does it mean I wasn't lucky?

Intention has no inherent connection with luck.
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Man they are really trying to jam this fight and the Jones/Silva fight down everyone's throat. I feel like the interest in this has died down since GSP's layoff and it doesn't seem like either fighter is into it that much. Is there even a clip of Anderson showing any enthusiasm in getting this fight? I only hear Soares mentioning it.


I think it's a little ill timed plus there's a lot of question marks around GSP's condition considering the layoff and the injury. Who knows, he might be better now that he's hungrier as he's been saying but it's definitely a stretch. I would want him to fight another top 170er and then see if the people demand the Silva fight.
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Yea I never understood this either. Sure if one guy is getting his ass handed to him and isn't landing much all fight...then out of no where he lands a KO punch...that could be considered sort of lucky...as he was outmatched all fight.

But like you said, fighters intend to put their fist or foot to chin. If they pull off what they are TRYING to do, how is it luck? Never understood that. I can't recall a semi-recent fight ending in luck or something that can be considered luck.
Luck isn't measured by how determined you are to make some thing happen, it's measured by how likely and how often you are able to do that one thing.

For example, I'm a terrible darts player. If I went into a darts game and my intention was to hit the bullseye with my first shot and I actually hit it, that would be considered an incredibly lucky shot. It doesn't matter if it was my intention to hit the bullseye and I hit it, what matters is the likely-hood of me hitting that bullseye consistently. The chances are very slim, because I'm rubbish.

Matt Serra KO'ing GSP could be considered an example of a lucky finish. Here's a guy with no proven real KO power who comes into the fight as a huge underdog and KO's George in the first round. Sure, he intended to KO George, but how often is he likely to pull that off? Not very likely at all.
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I'd laugh if Anderson Silva challenges GSP, GSP says, 'Cool story, bro', and exits the cage.

In reality, they've probably both been prepared for this. I'm certain that if GSP wins, this is to be the plan going forward, and has been for some time. I doubt Dana and the UFC would allow Anderson to enter the cage and challenge GSP without GSP being remotely aware or agreeable.
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