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Old 11-09-2012, 03:07 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Ok point one thing about her that is above her male contemporaries in terms of skill, athletic ability, or technique.


I'll wait.
Your'e right, its precisely because they are women that makes women's MMA worth watching. But there's nothing wrong with that.

Youre coming from a perspective that female fighter's arent worth watching because they don't match up to males, but you don't understand the perspective that its a new and interesting division of MMA precisely because women are different and we can finally see the other half of humanity tested in combat. The whole point of martial arts is excelling within your limitations; the female physiology has its strength and weaknesses apart from men's and its going to be fascinating to see how the women's game evolves.

Like, mens MMA isn't made pointless by the fact that all of them would lose to a gorilla in a fight, woman's isn't made pointless by the fact that they would lose to men.

If youre talking about skill, well, be patient. If you judged the first UFC by today's standard, todays standard would never exist because the sport would never grow. Similarly, you can't expect female fighter's to have as deep a level of skill as the men because they haven't been around as long, and aren't as well paid.

Lastly, you sound like basically have your period. Not liking something is one thing, shitting all over it like you're in a mood swing is another.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:38 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Word of advice Dana White and the Feritto's - Do not be tempted by the machine. Nobody really cares for MMA'S women, especially people in my country. I am a MAN, and a real man would not want to see a woman harm herself in public like this! It is no different to the teenagers in america who self harm, I do not like it and it makes me feel uncomfortable. Why can't women just leave the one thing we do extremely well to ourselves??? I am for women's rights but this is too much.
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I am a MAN, and a real man would not want to see a woman harm herself in public like this! It is no different to the teenagers in america who self harm, I do not like it and it makes me feel uncomfortable. Why can't women just leave the one thing we do extremely well to ourselves??? I am for women's rights but this is too much.
I think anyone who needs to scream "I am a man", is really a boy wanting to be a man. And, as a REAL man, I feel so sorry for you that women are taking away the last bit of esteem you have for yourself. Poor you real man. Poor poor real man.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:52 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Word of advice Dana White and the Feritto's - Do not be tempted by the machine. Nobody really cares for MMA'S women, especially people in my country. I am a MAN, and a real man would not want to see a woman harm herself in public like this! It is no different to the teenagers in america who self harm, I do not like it and it makes me feel uncomfortable. Why can't women just leave the one thing we do extremely well to ourselves??? I am for women's rights but this is too much.
In "your" country, nobody cares for MMA in general (except for some Bavarian ministers who plead for laws to prohibit its transmission on TV). Most people over there don't even know what MMA is. And concerning women in combat sports, Regina Halmich was probably the best boxing draw for quite a time behind the Klitschko brothers for the German mainstream audience.
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Word of advice Dana White and the Feritto's - Do not be tempted by the machine. Nobody really cares for MMA'S women, especially people in my country. I am a MAN, and a real man would not want to see a woman harm herself in public like this! It is no different to the teenagers in america who self harm, I do not like it and it makes me feel uncomfortable. Why can't women just leave the one thing we do extremely well to ourselves??? I am for women's rights but this is too much.
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Word of advice Dana White and the Feritto's - Do not be tempted by the machine. Nobody really cares for MMA'S women, especially people in my country. I am a MAN, and a real man would not want to see a woman harm herself in public like this! It is no different to the teenagers in america who self harm, I do not like it and it makes me feel uncomfortable. Why can't women just leave the one thing we do extremely well to ourselves??? I am for women's rights but this is too much.
All you are doing here is confirming what we already knew from your "Brazilians are nasty" thread. You are a bigot. You obviously don't respect women's rights and you seem to think their only place in MMA is walking around between rounds holding up a sign. They bust their ass in the gym just the same. They give the same blood, sweat, tears and commitment to the sport. It's not like we are forcing these women to get in the cage for some kind of sexual amusement. They are there to showcase their skill as mixed martial artist.
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Word of advice Dana White and the Feritto's - Do not be tempted by the machine. Nobody really cares for MMA'S women, especially people in my country. I am a MAN, and a real man would not want to see a woman harm herself in public like this! It is no different to the teenagers in america who self harm, I do not like it and it makes me feel uncomfortable. Why can't women just leave the one thing we do extremely well to ourselves??? I am for women's rights but this is too much.



Some of us "real men" also like the sight of strong women who exhibit tenacity, determination and self discipline; be it in business, personal life, or in this case, martial arts.

Some men do feel emasculated by this phenomenon, making them "uncomfortable" so to speak. Usually, this dissipates around puberty or early adulthood, when the "man" develops a stronger sense of self worth and subsequently lets go of long held, albeit simple minded beliefs/hangups.

Out of curiosity PGerm, is your favorite song of all time "Something in the Way" by Nirvana?
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:58 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I want to elaborate on my opinion of women in the UFC. A lot of you seem to enjoy watching WMMA, and that's completely fine. I respect other's tastes, although I personally don't enjoy watching WMMA (as is my right to my own taste). I fully support women in pursuing their passion, and I realize that they are dedicated and hard-working in the sport just as men are.
Having said that, it is a poor business decision to include women in the UFC simply because it is not marketable and therefore not profitable. I know it's hard for most of you to believe because you live in this MMAForum bubble where UFC is one of the most important things in life and MMA is clearly the best sport, but the reality is that the majority of people in America still don't even know what MMA is.
Many people still perceive MMA as barbaric human cockfighting, and despite what we may wish the UFC is NOT mainstream yet on the level of the Big Four sports in the U.S. For a lot of people, including myself, watching two females hurt each other and get bloody is simply unappealing. Agree or not, that's just the way it is and there is no logic that can make us feel otherwise.

Furthermore, some people are selling this sort or idea that "who wouldn't want to watch two women rolling around in shorts?" First of all, comments like this are sexist in the very same sense that its proponents seem to denounce. Second of all, most female fighters that I have seen are ugly, period (some exceptions). Third, there is nothing sexual involved in fighting and watching women get beaten, unless you are some sort of sadist. On the contrary, this is repulsive and quite the opposite of what guys want to see.

Finally, a giant segment of the UFC fanbase consists of conservative, traditional, military types that will never accept women's MMA in that it is simply not traditional. Right or wrong, it's bad for business. Dana White will regret this.
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I want to elaborate on my opinion of women in the UFC. A lot of you seem to enjoy watching WMMA, and that's completely fine. I respect other's tastes, although I personally don't enjoy watching WMMA (as is my right to my own taste). I fully support women in pursuing their passion, and I realize that they are dedicated and hard-working in the sport just as men are.
Having said that, it is a poor business decision to include women in the UFC simply because it is not marketable and therefore not profitable. I know it's hard for most of you to believe because you live in this MMAForum bubble where UFC is one of the most important things in life and MMA is clearly the best sport, but the reality is that the majority of people in America still don't even know what MMA is.
Many people still perceive MMA as barbaric human cockfighting, and despite what we may wish the UFC is NOT mainstream yet on the level of the Big Four sports in the U.S. For a lot of people, including myself, watching two females hurt each other and get bloody is simply unappealing. Agree or not, that's just the way it is and there is no logic that can make us feel otherwise.

Furthermore, some people are selling this sort or idea that "who wouldn't want to watch two women rolling around in shorts?" First of all, comments like this are sexist in the very same sense that its proponents seem to denounce. Second of all, most female fighters that I have seen are ugly, period (some exceptions). Third, there is nothing sexual involved in fighting and watching women get beaten, unless you are some sort of sadist. On the contrary, this is repulsive and quite the opposite of what guys want to see.

Finally, a giant segment of the UFC fanbase consists of conservative, traditional, military types that will never accept women's MMA in that it is simply not traditional. Right or wrong, it's bad for business. Dana White will regret this.




Oh so these are ugly??.
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I'd really like to add some rational, well made comments to support women fighting in the UFC, and women's MMA in general, because there are plenty to me made.

I'd like to but I can't, because I'll watch for no other reason than Ms. Rousey makes me go weak in the knees. Seriously. I will pay for each and every card she is on.

I would also like to apologise for being such a guy, but I won't... because I'm such a guy. Like most other guys. Which is what Dana and Zuffa are banking on, I'm sure.

Welcome to the UFC ladies. Please don't think less of me for admiring you for your guts and your hotness (especially you, Rhonda. *sigh*).

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