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Old 11-11-2012, 09:29 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Wow! I'm amazed at some of the comments in this section. A few pages ago I had to stop reading the "copter" guys post simply because of how insanely stupid they were.

Here is a simple fact. If we as MMA fans want MMA to continue to grow, this is an inevitable step. There isn't a sport in the world that hasn't eventually crossed gender boundries, NOT ONE. This isn't 1920, women have every right to compete in this growing sport as any man.

Frankly, I find the fights very entertaining. The smartest thing the UFC could do in the next year would be a woman's version of TUF. To the victors would go the spoils but lets be honest, in the end, you could and would need to take just about all of them.

Also, if they're smart, which they are, they will continue to push fights like they did Tate and Rousey. These women are amazing athletes and sexy as hell, they would be fools not to use that to push their fights to a predominately male crowd. That's not a sexist statement, just fact, and these women are smart enough to know that, that's why they're doing half naked photo shoots all over the internet.

I say, good for them, and bring it on!! Women's TUF, now!!
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Wow! I'm amazed at some of the comments in this section. A few pages ago I had to stop reading the "copter" guys post simply because of how insanely stupid they were.

Here is a simple fact. If we as MMA fans want MMA to continue to grow, this is an inevitable step. There isn't a sport in the world that hasn't eventually crossed gender boundries, NOT ONE. This isn't 1920, women have every right to compete in this growing sport as any man.

Frankly, I find the fights very entertaining. The smartest thing the UFC could do in the next year would be a woman's version of TUF. To the victors would go the spoils but lets be honest, in the end, you could and would need to take just about all of them.

Also, if they're smart, which they are, they will continue to push fights like they did Tate and Rousey. These women are amazing athletes and sexy as hell, they would be fools not to use that to push their fights to a predominately male crowd. That's not a sexist statement, just fact, and these women are smart enough to know that, that's why they're doing half naked photo shoots all over the internet.

I say, good for them, and bring it on!! Women's TUF, now!!
I hate it when people like you get on their moral high horse and act like you're some progressive intellectual saint. Nobody is saying that WMMA should be illegal, we just don't want to be forced into paying $60 for a PPV that includes women fights that not everybody wants to see. No other sport, including boxing, puts women and men on the same card/event/league. Therefore, your comparison doesn't even hold up.
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Okay here it is and the reality and alot of what I think people have forgotten and missed. Any womens sport becomes the hottest commodity for about 2 years then what happens? Womens Basketball? They make nothing compared to the men and their fan base is nothing compared to mens. Womens baseball......people seem to forget that it was brought back in the late 90's and is not around anymore. Womens Soccer....sky rocketed when Mia Hamm and the girls won the gold.....then went back into obscurity til Hope Solo popped up. Womens football.....yeah they have to put the girls in lingerie to get people to watch it. Its the latest fad and I hope its gone just as quick as it starts. All other womens sports are still more interesting to me than womens MMA. If they make a TUF season its going to be Cyborg or Tate, and Rousey. the whole cast will get a deal. I CANT WAIT FOR A WOMENS CO MAIN EVENT OR MAIN EVENT!!! Said no one ever. No way people rather watch a womens title fight over Ben Henderson, Aldo, Edgar, Guida, Maynard, or Diaz.
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Okay here it is and the reality and alot of what I think people have forgotten and missed. Any womens sport becomes the hottest commodity for about 2 years then what happens? Womens Basketball? They make nothing compared to the men and their fan base is nothing compared to mens. Womens baseball......people seem to forget that it was brought back in the late 90's and is not around anymore. Womens Soccer....sky rocketed when Mia Hamm and the girls won the gold.....then went back into obscurity til Hope Solo popped up. Womens football.....yeah they have to put the girls in lingerie to get people to watch it. Its the latest fad and I hope its gone just as quick as it starts. All other womens sports are still more interesting to me than womens MMA. If they make a TUF season its going to be Cyborg or Tate, and Rousey. the whole cast will get a deal. I CANT WAIT FOR A WOMENS CO MAIN EVENT OR MAIN EVENT!!! Said no one ever. No way people rather watch a womens title fight over Ben Henderson, Aldo, Edgar, Guida, Maynard, or Diaz.
Real fight fans will watch it.

Fans of finishes won't, unfortunately, most MMA fans actually favor finishes over the actual competition. Same reason the 125'ers get no respect, many MMA fans aren't real fight fans, they just watch for finishes, not the actual competition. Boxing fans are 100 times better.
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Real fight fans will watch it.

Fans of finishes won't, unfortunately, most MMA fans actually favor finishes over the actual competition. Same reason the 125'ers get no respect, many MMA fans aren't real fight fans, they just watch for finishes, not the actual competition. Boxing fans are 100 times better.
Please just stop, before you begin to further embarrass yourself.
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Real fight fans will watch it.

Fans of finishes won't, unfortunately, most MMA fans actually favor finishes over the actual competition. Same reason the 125'ers get no respect, many MMA fans aren't real fight fans, they just watch for finishes, not the actual competition. Boxing fans are 100 times better.
Thank you for telling us what "real fight fans" are supposed to do. I suppose Michael Vick was a real fight fan purist as well
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Jeez, I hate it when one claims that others are not a "real fight fan" just because they don't have the viewpoint. Why can't they understand that WMMA is not everyones' cup of tea?

For me, I would prefer that Strikeforce becomes a WMMA organisation. Build up the talent there, bring over some Invicta competitors or something. When the division is deep enough, integrate UFC and Strikeforce. I'm sure with more finishes and just a higher skill level in general, people would be more open to the idea of WMMA in UFC.
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Jeez, I hate it when one claims that others are not a "real fight fan" just because they don't have the viewpoint. Why can't they understand that WMMA is not everyones' cup of tea?

For me, I would prefer that Strikeforce becomes a WMMA organisation. Build up the talent there, bring over some Invicta competitors or something. When the division is deep enough, integrate UFC and Strikeforce. I'm sure with more finishes and just a higher skill level in general, people would be more open to the idea of WMMA in UFC.
Because it goes farther than Women's MMA.

The 145 lb, 135 lb, and 125 lb fighters are the best athletes in MMA, they're the most technical, the most skilled, and the fastest fighters out there.

But most MMA fans don't care about skill or talent, they just care about who can knock who out or who can choke who out the fastest. I truly can't understand why people criticize over size or gender. All you need to do is look at the reaction to Condit/Diaz, they expect people to just go in and trade with wreckless abandon as opposed to use skill and a gameplan.
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Because it goes farther than Women's MMA.

The 145 lb, 135 lb, and 125 lb fighters are the best athletes in MMA, they're the most technical, the most skilled, and the fastest fighters out there.

But most MMA fans don't care about skill or talent, they just care about who can knock who out or who can choke who out the fastest. I truly can't understand why people criticize over size or gender. All you need to do is look at the reaction to Condit/Diaz, they expect people to just go in and trade with wreckless abandon as opposed to use skill and a gameplan.
You scrutinize fans who appreciate fighters who go for the finish in the octagon and then support fighters who go out there to score points for 3/5 rounds. Then you have the audacity to label yourself as a true "fight fan".

Scoring points and looking to squeak out decisions isn't technically fighting. In a real fight - an actual fight, the two participants are looking to completely break each others' wills, they are looking to fight until their opponent can't take any more and is either KO'd, submitted or simply gives up. In no real fight do two guys go out there and look to out score each other, that simply doesn't happen, that isn't the essence of fighting.

So please don't try and sit on some high horse and patronise fans out there who have more appreciation for fighters who go out there looking for the finish, over "fighters" who's sole purpose is to score points and grind out a decision.

You're not hip, cool or some how more intelligent for supporting notorious decision fighters like Jon Fitch. It doesn't make you any more of a fan than others who prefer to see fighters look for the KO/submission every round of the fight. You're not some how better than any one else because you have this different viewpoint, so please, take your head out of your ******* ass.
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