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Old 11-09-2012, 07:25 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Machida will (T)KO Henderson, you heard it here first. Hendo is a big hype job, yes he was a very good MW but he is not a great LHW. He looked sloppy and slow against Shogun and barely won because Shogun is back to his old poor-cardio Mark Coleman version of himself, and he beat Fedor when he was shot and lost to Jake Shields of all people.
A technical, elite LHW like Machida will expose the hype job that Hendo is at LHW. My 2 cents.
If you're going that way then you can say that Jones is a hype job as well. Page, and Shogun aren't what they used to be, Belfort is a MW, Bader really isn't a top guy.

He was tagging Shogun all over that fight and Shoguns cardio wasn't even the issue there. Dan gassed out after going hard for 3 rounds and lost those two rounds, because Shogun had more in the tank.

If anything then Dan is underrated. A lot of ppl talk about his predictable overhand right but a few can actually avoid it. Clearly he's doing sth right. Hendo has a chance in that fight for sure. The way i see it Hendo will keep walking forward trying to plant that overhand and Machida will try to counter him with his accuracy. While Machida can hurt him coming in (like he did against Bader but let's be real here.. Hendo took a huge cross from Feijao and took Feijao down a few seconds later), i don't see Hendo losing other than gassing out.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:33 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Machida should take this but it would not surprise me if Hendo lands a bomb and puts Lyoto to sleep.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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hendo is legit of course. but lyoto is a bad matchup for him

no kicks and slower footwork will make it hard to land his big shot

i also think lyoto is improving all the time as he has been fighting top guys for awhile now

lyoto only loses if he gets complacent imo
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:29 AM   #34 (permalink)
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He got rocked against Feijao, Fedor and Shogun. Machida is a lot better than any of them at this juncture.

Dan won't be able to take Machida down or clinch with him at all, and he is way out of his league on the feet.

If you want to bet on it PM me. Dan is getting owned.
He could get owned. Or he could stalk Machida for 2 rounds while Machida backpeddles and take a dec. Ala Rampage fight.

One of the reasons I don't like this fight. Hendo and Rampage are similar in what they do. They will stalk you if you aren't stalking them. The Rampage fight was pure garbage.

Hope this one isn't pure garbage. We talk about Machida having flawless victories. Or at least his biggest fan does. But it is easy for Machida to be aggressive vs. guys who have nothing for him. When even an old washed up Page inflicted fear of a big punch, Machida got on his horse.

A lot easier for Machida to look amazing when he has nothing to worry about. Say what you will, but the H-Bomb lands...even if people think Hendo is slow, it lands..there is no denying that.

Like Nick Diaz, people act like it is so bad Hendo gets dropped. Why? It shows he can recover and is generally tougher than his opponents. It shows he is always in a fight and doesn't wilt.

All of those guys were killers. But none had anything that resembles Machida's style. I'm not saying Dan will win. But I find it funny that a guy as tough as Dan, a guy who beat Fedor and Shogun as an underdog (yea, a lot of people, many of you picked Fedor and Shogun in those fight) but I find it funny a guy like THAT is so easily counted out.

He has made all you doubters look stupid the last couple fights. He finds a way. That is fact.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:37 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I will sig bet or whatever kind of bet anyone here that Dan won't get finished. It is a 3 round fight and a lot of you are picking Dan to get TKO'd or KO'd for the first time ever. Odds aren't on your side.

Again, Hendo isn't Ryan Bader or Randy Couture. People see a spectacular Machida KO of Bader and pee their pants. People have short memories and love to back what they last remember seeing.

Hendo will not be finished by Machida in a 3 round fight. Bet me.
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Machida via submission.
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Machida via submission.
I could defiantly see that being the case if he does finish him. It will probably be a submission. But in a 3 round fight I doubt it. Hendo won't gas that bad.

Plus who is going to the ground? I doubt either of them really try for TDs. Hendo defiantly won't. Machida may if he gets hit in the face a couple times. Both guys believe they can win the fight by striking.
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One of the reasons I don't like this fight. Hendo and Rampage are similar in what they do. They will stalk you if you aren't stalking them. The Rampage fight was pure garbage.
Actually there's one big difference, when Rampage finally gets someone in a position where he can unload some punches he hesitates and lets the guy get away or he throws a quick combo of ineffective punches and then steps back and resets. Hendo doesn't give his opponents that chance to get away, he unloads without hesitation and more often than not the other guy will get knocked out cold or take serious damage in the exchange.
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Slow, unmotivated, and plodding Rampage Jackson can win against Machida, but people are saying that Dan Henderson, who still has the heart of a lion, stands no chance? I'm all for taking a side, but to completely count out Dan Henderson of all people is to set yourself up for disappointment.

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Old 11-10-2012, 12:12 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Actually there's one big difference, when Rampage finally gets someone in a position where he can unload some punches he hesitates and lets the guy get away or he throws a quick combo of ineffective punches and then steps back and resets. Hendo doesn't give his opponents that chance to get away, he unloads without hesitation and more often than not the other guy will get knocked out cold or take serious damage in the exchange.
Yea, I agree. Hendo is obviously better at this stage. A lot better. And he will throw that right over and over in exchanges.

But if Machida doesn't engage much, there is no place for that H-Bomb to land. If he plays the keep away game for 2 rounds it will be Hendo walking around the cage after him with his hand cocked.

Hendo wouldn't be wise to come out guns blazing. He really needs to be the counter puncher. But Machida is that way as well. He will out time you and like Hendo. If Machida isn't in the pocket, Hendo will just wait it out.
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