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Harness · 11-10-2012, 07:34 AM

Well this proves everything. The guy is just a dick.

Magog · 11-11-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cdtcpl

I wonder if the old saying, "You only get out what you put in" applies to this situation. I have a hard time imagining a camp that is helping so may others is failing him.

Well no, American top team is pound 4 pound the shittiest team walking.

They can take great talent and not produce a champion, Lombard Alves, thiago, so forth and so on... Woodley....

not a champion sense Mike Brown for crying out loud. i understand some camps don't have the talented stars to mold champions but American top team simply blows.

Joabbuac · 11-11-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWays222

Tyrone Spong must be a great sparring partner.

Great if you like limping home

Some hard lessons will be learned there.

Magog · 11-11-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Joabbuac

Great if you like limping home

Some hard lessons will be learned there.

sounds so retro and chute box lol.

**osmium** · 11-11-2012, 11:48 AM

Torres and Guillard are just **** ups and not as good as people thought they were you can't blame the camp for that.

Magog · 11-11-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by osmium

Torres and Guillard are just **** ups and not as good as people thought they were you can't blame the camp for that.

Gullards fairly good, he just has a weak chin. He's fast, he can recover on the ground, and he has the skills to play the part of at least the spoiler.

Torres sadly has adapted a safety first policy, and is getting older and slower in a fast division that is quickly passing him by.

Happens to lots of guys. Look at kid yomato.

**Toxic** · 11-11-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Magog

Well no, American top team is pound 4 pound the shittiest team walking.

They can take great talent and not produce a champion, Lombard Alves, thiago, so forth and so on... Woodley....

not a champion sense Mike Brown for crying out loud. i understand some camps don't have the talented stars to mold champions but American top team simply blows.

Have you considered Thiago Alves, Thiago Silva and Lombard simply aren't that good? Thiago Alves is a guy who constantly drains himself to make WW and yet still suffers from T-Rex syndrome, Lombard suffers from the same lack of reach and Thiago Silva suffers from a lack of wrestling and physical conditioning. Its not the fault of the of the camp they don't have champions. Champions make a camp as much as camps make champions. Name a single fighter who showed a huge dramatic improvement after switching camps.

**TheLyotoLegion** · 11-11-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic

Have you considered Thiago Alves, Thiago Silva and Lombard simply aren't that good? Thiago Alves is a guy who constantly drains himself to make WW and yet still suffers from T-Rex syndrome, Lombard suffers from the same lack of reach and Thiago Silva suffers from a lack of wrestling and physical conditioning. Its not the fault of the of the camp they don't have champions. Champions make a camp as much as camps make champions. Name a single fighter who showed a huge dramatic improvement after switching camps.

Back the **** up.

Alves fought for the title and was ranked 2! that's right 2!!! and that's more than we can say for Lombard and Silva!