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Old 11-11-2012, 10:11 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:27 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:54 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Did you want him to gently lay him down and tuck him in?
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Did you want him to gently lay him down and tuck him in?
Well he could have held on to him until the referee got there.

Meet somewhere in the middle from dropping him on his face and tucking him in to bed.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:17 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I haven't seen a single standing guillotine yet where the guy didn't drop the dude on his face after going out. I'm no Jones apologist but that's pretty weak.


Dan Miller vs Dave Phillips

and Scotty Jorgensens GOAT pickup five finger guillotine of doom on Chad George are both examples of that.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:27 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I haven't seen a single standing guillotine yet where the guy didn't drop the dude on his face after going out. I'm no Jones apologist but that's pretty weak.


Dan Miller vs Dave Phillips

and Scotty Jorgensens GOAT pickup five finger guillotine of doom on Chad George are both examples of that.
Im not saying what he did was wrong or not wrong.

Just giving a reasonable solution to what he could have done.

That said i dont even remember too many standing guillotines. Im interested in seeing some GIFs of them now. Il get on that later.
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It's not really reasonable.

He was holding all 200 dead weight pounds of Machida by his neck.

It's not like he could've let go of the choke and straddled the dude.

At best he could've attempt to catch him if he really wanted to...but hell, it's a goddamn prizefight.
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It's not really reasonable.

He was holding all 200 dead weight pounds of Machida by his neck.

It's not like he could've let go of the choke and straddled the dude.

At best he could've attempt to catch him if he really wanted to...but hell, it's a goddamn prizefight.
Holding on to someone really isnt hard. If i can do it then i know Jon Jones could do it. All he needed to do was let go of the neck and grab Machida underneath the arm pits. The referee would have been there in a second or 2.

Thats very easy to do. And its a human being thats being dropped on his face. So preventing that by holding on for 2 seconds is extremely reasonable.

He did what he did and thats fine. I really dont think its a negative thing to let Machida drop given the circumstances. But im not going to sit here and act like holding on to the limp body for a couple seconds is unreasonable lmao.

I expected Jones fan boys to act like holding on to Machida for a couple seconds is not reasonable. But i guess someone trying to defend his point of view is just as likely to try and argue that.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:29 AM   #39 (permalink)
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If Jones keeps Machida up and Machida wakes up and starts to complain Jones haters could call it an early stoppage, bad officiating, and demand an immediate rematch. Machida fell on his face because he chose not to tap, it's like saying oh Mir should have stopped right before Nog's arm started to break. Jones job was to lock the submission on, Machida's job was to admit that it was a successful submission.

Regardless, this, promos, pales in comparison to the assault cases.

I still say Diaz stalking Riggs in the hospital(when he has an IV in) and urinal and calling for a fight with another guys genitals are out id say covers most unsportsmanlike and disrespectful act. You are talking about serious premeditation and constant action for what an hour maybe two.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:31 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Brocks antics post 100 literally made me ashamed of the sport. I had friends and family who were watching the sport for the first time.

Yelling at a wobbled, half conscious Mir after the fight... then flipping the crowd off for booing him (rightfully so). Then the speech was just the topping of the cake.

Some of my friends/family asked me if all fighters were like that. I was disgusted.
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