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post #41 of 54 (permalink) Old 11-12-2012, 03:52 AM
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If Jones keeps Machida up and Machida wakes up and starts to complain Jones haters could call it an early stoppage, bad officiating, and demand an immediate rematch. Machida fell on his face because he chose not to tap, it's like saying oh Mir should have stopped right before Nog's arm started to break. Jones job was to lock the submission on, Machida's job was to admit that it was a successful submission.

Regardless, this, promos, pales in comparison to the assault cases.

I still say Diaz stalking Riggs in the hospital(when he has an IV in) and urinal and calling for a fight with another guys genitals are out id say covers most unsportsmanlike and disrespectful act. You are talking about serious premeditation and constant action for what an hour maybe two.

What??

After the Ref stops the fight thats all there is to it. It was obvious Machida was out.

And how is saying he could have held on to the limp body until the referee grabs Machida like saying Mir should have stopped before Nogs arm started to break???

I think you are seriously confused. No one is saying Jones should have let go of the submission before the ref called the fight OR that Mir should have let go of the arm before the ref called the fight.
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What??

After the Ref stops the fight thats all there is to it. It was obvious Machida was out.
Well I'm thinking of the Danzig/Wiman I situation where Danzig was or wasn't out.


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And how is saying he could have held on to the limp body until the referee grabs Machida like saying Mir should have stopped before Nogs arm started to break???
And in this case I'm thinking of the John Albert/Eric Perez situation where Perez had an armbar and the ref decided to stop the fight.

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I think you are seriously confused. No one is saying Jones should have let go of the submission before the ref called the fight OR that Mir should have let go of the arm before the ref called the fight.
But they feel Jones letting Machida fall on his face is the worst act of unsportsmanlike conduct that has ever happened. If he says Machida is out like Matt Wiman said that he thought Danzig was out and he was wrong he's a cheat. I don't think there is any confusion that certain people who decry it as one of the worst things ever. The sportsmanlike thing to do is for the fighter in the submission to tap before he falls on his face or breaks a bone. That's what I'm saying.
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Well I'm thinking of the Danzig/Wiman I situation where Danzig was or wasn't out.




And in this case I'm thinking of the John Albert/Eric Perez situation where Perez had an armbar and the ref decided to stop the fight.



But they feel Jones letting Machida fall on his face is the worst act of unsportsmanlike conduct that has ever happened. If he says Machida is out like Matt Wiman said that he thought Danzig was out and he was wrong he's a cheat. I don't think there is any confusion that certain people who decry it as one of the worst things ever. The sportsmanlike thing to do is for the fighter in the submission to tap before he falls on his face or breaks a bone. That's what I'm saying.
What Jon Jones did wasnt bad.

I was simply stating that after the fight was stopped he could have held on to the body until the ref came and grabbed him.

It was a middle ground for the people saying

"What should he have laid him down gently and tucked him in!!"
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Machida should have been eased down, or at least until the ref could assist in doing so. just letting go and letting the dude smash his face on the mat was pretty damn lame on Jones's part. Machida was limp and had ZERO means of protecting his face.

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Holding on to someone really isnt hard. If i can do it then i know Jon Jones could do it. All he needed to do was let go of the neck and grab Machida underneath the arm pits. The referee would have been there in a second or 2.

Thats very easy to do. And its a human being thats being dropped on his face. So preventing that by holding on for 2 seconds is extremely reasonable.

He did what he did and thats fine. I really dont think its a negative thing to let Machida drop given the circumstances. But im not going to sit here and act like holding on to the limp body for a couple seconds is unreasonable lmao.

I expected Jones fan boys to act like holding on to Machida for a couple seconds is not reasonable. But i guess someone trying to defend his point of view is just as likely to try and argue that.
It's reasonable to think that Jones could've prevented Machida from falling on his face if he really wanted to.

It's not reasonable that it was even brought up in this thread.

Honestly, Jones haters have so many better things to complain about.
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It's reasonable to think that Jones could've prevented Machida from falling on his face if he really wanted to.

It's not reasonable that it was even brought up in this thread.

Honestly, Jones haters have so many better things to complain about.
Thank you for saying that
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It's reasonable to think that Jones could've prevented Machida from falling on his face if he really wanted to.

It's not reasonable that it was even brought up in this thread.

Honestly, Jones haters have so many better things to complain about.
Oh i fully agree. There are hundreds of things that should be named before even considering that.
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It's reasonable to think that Jones could've prevented Machida from falling on his face if he really wanted to.

It's not reasonable that it was even brought up in this thread.

Honestly, Jones haters have so many better things to complain about.
i can agree with this to a certain extent. the problem im having is the notion that jones could just flip the switch off in terms of aggression. yes it is physically possible that he could have stopped machida from falling, but is it reasonable to think jones was in a state of mind to do so? literally right before machida goes limp jones is trying to harm machida, and i dont expect anyone to be able to switch gears into concerned comrade that quickly.

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