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Tom Lawlor 4 16.67%
Francis Carmont 19 79.17%
Draw 1 4.17%
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post #71 of 84 (permalink) Old 11-19-2012, 03:05 AM
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Yeah, but Lawlor was clearly the aggressor for the most part. An incompetent aggressor, but still...
I don't see how you can call stalling aggression because that is what he was doing. Typical shitty mud fighting by Lawlor; he should try making his fights more entertaining instead of his weigh in. I gave Carmont the win for those knees and a couple good straights and kicks.
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Just don't complain when one of your guys loses because of shitty judging.
It's already happened. But I can't change the world by pissing and moaning over an online chat forum. That's up to the Athletic Commission, which I'm sure doesn't read MMAF.
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He also controlled him on the cage. It wasn't a OMG robbery, but I thought under MMA judging criteria it was a sure win for Lawlor or at the very least a draw. BTW I am not a Lawlor fight fan (he's funny but thats about it) so this isn't coming from a biased point of view.
It wasn't the worst I've ever seen, but I was very shocked when that happened. I'm not a fan of either, but it annoys me when judges don't make any sense.

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My second favourite part of MMAF.

People whining about decisions while using logic that would suggest that fights aren't scored on a round by round scoring system.


OMG HE GOT MORE TAKEDOWNS HE SHUOLD WIN.


No, actually he only got takedowns in round 2. Which he clearly won. He actually got taken down in round 3 and failed all his other attempts.


I love it, people love to whine about judges yet articulate themselves in a way that makes it evident they'd be incompetent ones.
Uhm, I understand that the scoring system is round by round... In the first round, Lawlor landed more punches (as opposed to a big kick to the forearms), controlled the fight against the cage, and had a semi-decent guillotine attempt. On the virtue of activity, that puts him ahead.

Round two, we don't even need to talk about.

Round 3, Lawlor lands a lot more strikes unless you think forearms should be a scoring target. Neither fighter lands a takedown. They fell down for a second then popped back up. That don't count, y0!

EDIT: I'd actually probably make a great judge, since I've actually competed in MMA, boxing, kickboxing, and grappling. I actually know what's going on in there, which is more than Cecil Peoples can say.

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*Understands how you could score the fight for Pearson even though Barboza dropped him*
Actually, this goes back to something roflcopter said about fights being scored round by round... Dropping someone once but getting completely outscored otherwise, and in two other rounds, doesn't get you a win. Unless you're a hometown favorite, apparently.

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It wasn't the worst I've ever seen, but I was very shocked when that happened. I'm not a fan of either, but it annoys me when judges don't make any sense.



Uhm, I understand that the scoring system is round by round... In the first round, Lawlor landed more punches (as opposed to a big kick to the forearms), controlled the fight against the cage, and had a semi-decent guillotine attempt. On the virtue of activity, that puts him ahead.

Round two, we don't even need to talk about.

Round 3, Lawlor lands a lot more strikes unless you think forearms should be a scoring target. Neither fighter lands a takedown. They fell down for a second then popped back up. That don't count, y0!

EDIT: I'd actually probably make a great judge, since I've actually competed in MMA, boxing, kickboxing, and grappling. I actually know what's going on in there, which is more than Cecil Peoples can say.



Actually, this goes back to something roflcopter said about fights being scored round by round... Dropping someone once but getting completely outscored otherwise, and in two other rounds, doesn't get you a win. Unless you're a hometown favorite, apparently.
I know, I personally had it 29-28 for Barboza and the only thing I thought Pearson did was be aggressive, but I haven't watched the fight in a while I just remember thinking Barboza won a competitive fight.

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It wasn't the worst I've ever seen, but I was very shocked when that happened. I'm not a fan of either, but it annoys me when judges don't make any sense.



Uhm, I understand that the scoring system is round by round... In the first round, Lawlor landed more punches (as opposed to a big kick to the forearms), controlled the fight against the cage, and had a semi-decent guillotine attempt. On the virtue of activity, that puts him ahead.

Round two, we don't even need to talk about.

Round 3, Lawlor lands a lot more strikes unless you think forearms should be a scoring target. Neither fighter lands a takedown. They fell down for a second then popped back up. That don't count, y0!

EDIT: I'd actually probably make a great judge, since I've actually competed in MMA, boxing, kickboxing, and grappling. I actually know what's going on in there, which is more than Cecil Peoples can say.



Actually, this goes back to something roflcopter said about fights being scored round by round... Dropping someone once but getting completely outscored otherwise, and in two other rounds, doesn't get you a win. Unless you're a hometown favorite, apparently.

No Carmont clearly took him down.

Perhaps you'd have been a better fighter if you fixed your eyesight.

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Sure. In that case, Lawlor took him down too. You know, if we're counting takedowns that don't end with a fighter holding a dominant position for a few seconds.

As for my own fighting career, my shortcomings haven't stemmed from my eyesight. I'm a very slight myope -- about -0.75 in each eye -- so as long as someone's within 15 feet I can see them crystal-clear.

What's your record again?

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I'm undefeated. You, not so much.
Sweet. You must be really good. So that I can be impressed and all, could you link me to your mma record on sherdog or mixedmartialarts.com? And maybe some vids of your fights?

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Sweet. You must be really good. So that I can be impressed and all, could you link me to your mma record on sherdog or mixedmartialarts.com? And maybe some vids of your fights?
Don't waste your time, Kin.

If you try to sieve through his teenage angst trying to find kernels of anything useful, you're apt to bring on the headache.

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Don't waste your time, Kin.

If you try to sieve through his teenage angst trying to find kernels of anything useful, you're apt to bring on the headache.

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Dude, angst is what fuels art. It's what drives great artists. And this badass right here is an undefeated mixed martial artist.

I think we could both learn something from him.

But yeah, roflcopter, on that note... Record and vids plz?

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