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Georges St-Pierre 52 72.22%
Carlos Condit 20 27.78%
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:26 AM   #281 (permalink)
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People don't give GSP credit. His top game (ground) is on par with a an Anderson Silva striking game say in mid 2000s which is still pretty impressive. His technical prowess, maneuvering, slipping out of submissions constantly, control, pushing a frenetic pace, and GNP has to be commended. The ONLY thing he lacks is KO power. If he had the equivalent KO power of the LHW title holder in his respective division he would have finished 90% of his fights.

Also I realized that's why GSP is more proned to getting injured because his fights always go the distance as opposed to the other champions in other divisions who are able to finish quicker.

PS: Although exciting, as I said Condit is far too reckless with his striking even though the Brazillian kick and 3+4 lhk combo was pretty sweet. Anderson Silva would have done what he always does countering and it would be lights out.

PSS: I now believe GSP is being pressured into a fight he DOES NOT want against Anderson Silva. As much as the majority of us want to see it, it's really up to his camp. He said Condit was the biggest threat. Facing Anderson Silva will take that honour.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:28 AM   #282 (permalink)
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In all fairness it seems Condit is hard to finish. No question in my mind that GSP somewhat became a bit more passive on the ground and on the feet after the head kick. But it's not like he just layed on Condit, or refused to engage him on the feet either, cause that would be an exaggeration. But I don't see how any could argue that rounds 1-3 (beginning up till the head kick) were different from rounds 4 and 5.

But again this wasn't Dan Hardy, it was Condit and Condit was nasty from the ground, not only from the strikes but also from the threat of sweeps and subs.
This.

Honestly, I'm really interested in hearing who people think would have finished Condit in that situation because I can't think of anyone.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:29 AM   #283 (permalink)
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I'll say this again, the moment Carlos is trying to kick he will be taken down. GSP isn't the best wrestler or the best striker, his greatest strength is his ability to make his opponent fight handicapped. The constant threat of a take down the moment you get greedy gets into a fighter's head. Imagine you're drilling all those beautiful punch kick combination and then having to "box" half ass because you're scared he will take you to do the ground. That's why Condit won't have such a drastic advantage on the stand up, his wariness will make him tentative.

When the fight goes to the ground (and it will), GSP has the sickest top control. His strength and transition wrestling makes him a beast when on top. You know he won't take stupid gambles (especially early on), so I highly doubt he'll get swept or surprised by the new ninja jujitsu Condit's been learning. Condit has a great gas tank but he'll be put to the test when a sweaty greasy french man is making sweet love from up top.

By R3, Condit will be visibly frustrated and will take bigger gambles outside his "game plan". This is the part where the gamble might pay off (random back fist/flying knee) or where he might get broken by GSP's relentless sweet love making.

I like Condit though and I'm hoping those sweeps he's been practicing pays off but still saying GSP by UD.
Went exactly like I predicted cept it was a kick to the face.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:29 AM   #284 (permalink)
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People don't give GSP credit. His top game (ground) is on par with a an Anderson Silva striking game say in mid 2000s which is still pretty impressive. His technical prowess, maneuvering, slipping out of submissions constantly, control, pushing a frenetic pace, and GNP has to be commended. The ONLY thing he lacks is KO power. If he had the equivalent KO power of the LHW title holder in his respective division he would have finished 90% of his fights.

Also I realized that's why GSP is more proned to getting injured because his fights always go the distance as opposed to the other champions in other divisions who are able to finish quicker.

PS: Although exciting, as I said Condit is far too reckless with his striking even though the Brazillian kick and 3+4 lhk combo was pretty sweet. Anderson Silva would have done what he always does countering and it would be lights out.

PSS: I now believe GSP is being pressured into a fight he DOES NOT want against Anderson Silva. As much as the majority of us want to see it, it's really up to his camp. He said Condit was the biggest threat. Facing Anderson Silva will take that honour.
Yeah I agree pretty much with all of this. And addressing the GSP/Silva fight, I don't blame GSP for not wanting that fight because Silva will destroy him, and he knows this. He is also the smaller fighter, that has nothing to prove anyone (except himself maybe and the GOAT status) fighting not only a higher weight class fighter, but THE best fighter in the planet P4P.
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lol, people still claiming GSP LNPs his opponents. Must be some nasty LNP to slice them up so bad. These forums, and the internet in general, really take away from the enjoyment of being an MMA fan. May have to give this place up, because the idiocy becomes tiresome.
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lol, people still claiming GSP LNPs his opponents. Must be some nasty LNP to slice them up so bad. These forums, and the internet in general, really take away from the enjoyment of being an MMA fan. May have to give this place up, because the idiocy becomes tiresome.
Oh no don't do that! Then who will insult everyone for having different opinions than them?

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Old 11-18-2012, 02:35 AM   #287 (permalink)
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An opinion is an opinion, but it can be debunked with fact.

LNP does not leave a man's face looking like ground beef. That's a fairly indisputable fact. I'd say it was common sense, but that might be lost on you.
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An opinion is an opinion, but it can be debunked with fact.

LNP does not leave a man's face looking like ground beef. That's a fairly indisputable fact. I'd say it was common sense, but that might be lost on you.
Yeah I guess it is lost on me.

You should rage quit the forum in protest.

GSP clearly won this fight. He did a bit of humping, but as I've said before in all the Fitch threads. Humping takes two.

Carlos was doing tight defense on the ground, if he had been scrambling more frantically to get up, he would have taken a far worse beating from GSP.

The onus is on the guy on the bottom to get up. You fight from your back in the UFC, you better finish the fight or you are going to lose, period.

He must have known he was losing, but he didn't give up guard and eat shots to try to get up. He made his bed.

GSP did more than enough on the ground imo Carlos knew that and there came a point in the fight where he just wanted to make it to the final bell as opposed to giving up bad positions on the ground to make an attempt to get up.

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If you'd put it like that as versus 'GSP dry humped Carlos to hell', we might have avoided this confrontation. Work on that for next time, sport.
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