[SideWays222]

Originally Posted by Danm2501

I did, I said he only threw one decent LEG kick, which is true. Condit rocked GSP hard, but that was pretty much the only decent combo he did land, other than that, Georges made him look tentative.

He threw a decent HEAD kick. Not Leg kick.

I know what you are trying to say and why but that is the wrong way of saying it.

Leg kicks imply he is kicking the leg.

Since when you say KICK it already implies the fact that he is using his legs. So the word beforelets you know where he kicked. IE. HEAD kick or LEG kick. Since you dont "kick" with your arms.

[Rauno]

Originally Posted by MMA specialist

How the F*ck could 2 judges score 50-45, with Condit so close to finishing the fight and inflicting the most damage there than either fighter did at any point in the fight.

When is MMA judging gonna get its shit together.. Am i the only one that thinks Lombard got robbed?

Really? Condit did deal some damage off of his back but you are clearly delusional if you think he won the fight. They scored it 50-45 because GSP took all the rounds, you're trying to judge it based on the head kick-following GNP alone.

[Danm2501]

Originally Posted by SideWays222

He threw a decent HEAD kick. Not Leg kick.

I know what you are trying to say and why but that is the wrong way of saying it.

Leg kicks imply he is kicking the leg.

Since when you say KICK it already implies the fact that he is using his legs. So the word beforelets you know where he kicked. IE. HEAD kick or LEG kick. Since you dont "kick" with your arms.

Thanks for the lesson, but I know what a kick is.

You've completely mis-understood my point. Condit threw heaps of leg kicks against Diaz, it was one of his primary weapons. Against GSP he threw a few weak ones that were never intended to cause any damage, he looked tentative. Then, when he eventually pulled the trigger, GSP was waiting and took him down instantly. It was just used as a point to indicate the tentativeness of Condit's attack, and how GSP made him pay when he was aggressive. I'm well aware he landed a good HEAD kick.

[K R Y]

Originally Posted by SideWays222

He threw a decent HEAD kick. Not Leg kick.

I know what you are trying to say and why but that is the wrong way of saying it.

Leg kicks imply he is kicking the leg.

Since when you say KICK it already implies the fact that he is using his legs. So the word beforelets you know where he kicked. IE. HEAD kick or LEG kick. Since you dont "kick" with your arms.

Lol he was talking about a LEG kick that got him taken down immediately. Not the omfg headkick.

Originally Posted by Rauno

Really? Condit did deal some damage off of his back but you are clearly delusional if you think he won the fight. They scored it 50-45 because GSP took all the rounds, you're trying to judge it based on the head kick-following GNP alone.

Think he means the scoring was off for ONE round, so should of been 49-46 not the whole fight.

Though I scored it 50-45 as well. The kick was nice and he hurt GSP, but GSP controlled 75% of that round and landed some nice shots on the ground.

[Rauno]

Yeah, it seems i misread. I gave all rounds to GSP as well. Nice head kick and a brief GNP but GSP had it.

[No_Mercy]

One thing I noticed is that Condit has very peculiar movement with his body when throwing shots + combos so that leg kick (signature combo) was really hard to see especially since his eye was blurry. He lowers his head, hesitates slightly and throws leg kicks and switches up high from time to time disrupting the timing and pattern. In that regards Condit is tricky. Unfortunately as I said in a previous thread he has a decent amount of arsenal, but shots that he continues over and over without trying new tactics. That's the problem every fighter has endured against GSP. They can't figure out how to stop those takedowns even though they know it's coming.

Condit is deadly, but he's not the best Muay Thai practitioner out there. His ground game is solid, but not good enough to threaten the way Maia or Werdum can. Hence why GSP could control the top position relatively easily.

Hendricks poses an interesting match up. Goldberg said something intelligent for the first time. Hendricks wings it hard leaving him open for a takedown, but that's probably because he's comfortable on the mat and does not care if it goes there. Koscheck showed that if you can keep up with Hendricks his arsenal becomes very limited and he also tires out with all the muscle he's packing. He's a big WW.

People who are against GSP, I get it. If every fighter was like that it may get a bit frustrating. But there's only one. He does a heck of a lot more than Fitch or Lay Praynard I'll tell you that much. As I said if he had finishing power, he would have TKOed 90% of his opponents by now. Look at their faces; Fitch, Alves, BJ Penn, and even Condit 1st round. He maims em, saps their energy, demoralizes them, but unfortunately can't quite put em away.

So I've come to respect that GSP methodically breaks down his opponent the blue collar way, minute by minute, round by round. Not an easy thing to do.

[SideWays222]

Originally Posted by Danm2501

Thanks for the lesson, but I know what a kick is.

You've completely mis-understood my point. Condit threw heaps of leg kicks against Diaz, it was one of his primary weapons. Against GSP he threw a few weak ones that were never intended to cause any damage, he looked tentative. Then, when he eventually pulled the trigger, GSP was waiting and took him down instantly. It was just used as a point to indicate the tentativeness of Condit's attack, and how GSP made him pay when he was aggressive. I'm well aware he landed a good HEAD kick.

Ahh gotcha. I thought you were saying the only thing Condit did in that fight was throw one decent head kick. But you used "Leg kick" instead of head kick.

I thought the whole post was a bit weird based on that thought but i figured what the hell no need to argue it. Lets just help him understand why saying Leg kick is wrong. lol

Makes more sense now haha.

Its 4:40am here and i have not slept yet.

Originally Posted by K R Y

Lol he was talking about a LEG kick that got him taken down immediately. Not the omfg headkick.

Yeah i got it thx

the man himself already explained it above you.

[osmium]

The two judges who scored every round for Georges shouldn't be allowed to ever judge again. They clearly can't be counted on to be objective or competent. I gave it 3 to 2 to Georges and it was an excellent fight; it definitely deserved fight of the night.

I doubt GSP takes the fight with Anderson; he knows he will get smoked. He might not even have that option if he fights Hendricks.

[NoYards]

50-45 was the right score. This is MMA, not boxing. Anyone who thinks that 'damage from the bottom' is more important than being taken down in the first place, can't then really believe that being knocked down is 'the be all and end all' of scoring a round ... getting someone down is worth something, sure, but unless it's due to an actual KO you need to have that knock down amount to something more than a few seconds of 'control' (especially if you then get taken down and controlled for 90% of the round.)

Those who don't like the ground game have a right to their opinion, no matter how stupid it might be. Watching GSP manhandle the cream of the crop in the WW division (it's not like he doing this to WW rookies) and every one of them spend the whole night on their back wondering what the hell happened, is impressive.

My concern about GSP in this fight was that he seemed not able to pass half guard. Usually he puts on a clinic on how to pass guard, last night not so much ... I'm putting that down to Condit's skill from his back for now, and maybe part of the GSP plan so as not to take chances getting caught duing a switch, but in a closer fight that might a more important issue.

But what a great fight. You could never count Condit out (other than on points) and GSP kept busy and was never for a second any chance that during the ground game that the ref was going to stand them up.

I don't see how Hendricks doesn't get his chance, and because of the potential GSP 'ring rust' I think that it would be only fair to give him another true WW fight before asking him to move on to take a fight with The Spider.


As for GSP, Anderson, and Jones fighting each other, I am torn. I think they are all great champs and it would be really sad to see any of them get beat, especially in fights outside their divisions (I'll be pulling for the smaller guy in any case no matter what the fight) but man, those fights have to happen ...especially GSP/Silva.)

[SM33]

That was an absolute clinic, wow. I hope GSP declines the Silva fight, there is more for him at WW and getting knocked out by a MW is a pointless venture.