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Georges St-Pierre 52 72.22%
Carlos Condit 20 27.78%
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:25 AM   #321 (permalink)
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The two judges who scored every round for Georges shouldn't be allowed to ever judge again. They clearly can't be counted on to be objective or competent. I gave it 3 to 2 to Georges and it was an excellent fight; it definitely deserved fight of the night.

I doubt GSP takes the fight with Anderson; he knows he will get smoked. He might not even have that option if he fights Hendricks.
2? What was the other round? I can at least sort of see how you give Condit round 3, I didn't, but you can make a case for it. But what is the other round Condit is supposed to have won??

He got outstruck and controlled every single round, even round 3. Yeah he was active in the guard, I thought he did a great job, but that is not winning, that is just not losing quite as badly.

Are his arm punches from the bottom supposed to be scoring more than GSP's elbows from the top that made Condit a bloody mess? Really?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:00 AM   #322 (permalink)
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The two judges who scored every round for Georges shouldn't be allowed to ever judge again. They clearly can't be counted on to be objective or competent. I gave it 3 to 2 to Georges and it was an excellent fight; it definitely deserved fight of the night.

I doubt GSP takes the fight with Anderson; he knows he will get smoked. He might not even have that option if he fights Hendricks.
I gave Carlos one round, but I agree with your sentiment nonetheless. I just watched this fight a second time, and it is easily a FOTY candidate. I know that we will get to see the inevitable rematch, which makes this fight all the more satisfying as these two clearly bring out the best in one another. As for the one round I awarded Condit, I do understand that GSP controlled the majority of that round. And that he managed to shake loose the cobwebs after being hit with that baseball bat of a headkick is nothing short of commendable. I just tend to feel that in a round where you come within inches of closing the deal, that ought to be your round. But I do understand that MMA scoring doesn't work this way.

As for the Anderson Silva fight, I hope GSP does what he feels is best for him. He's just signed millions in endorsement deals, and if he believes that the MW kingpin is a foregone threat to that, then respect to GSP for wanting to do his own thing. I think that in his own way GSP has more or less tipped his hat to Anderson Silva. Do fans want him to come right out and say, 'it's a fight I'd probably lose' before they'll move on?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:02 AM   #323 (permalink)
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2? What was the other round? I can at least sort of see how you give Condit round 3, I didn't, but you can make a case for it. But what is the other round Condit is supposed to have won??

He got outstruck and controlled every single round, even round 3. Yeah he was active in the guard, I thought he did a great job, but that is not winning, that is just not losing quite as badly.

Are his arm punches from the bottom supposed to be scoring more than GSP's elbows from the top that made Condit a bloody mess? Really?
Firstly you are clearly delusional if you think GSP was winning the striking exchanges after the second round. The third is impossible to give to GSP under the scoring criteria as well he got outdamaged even when he was on top; in fact he basically did nothing that entire round except get his ass kicked.

I gave Condit the fifth which was competitive but again he got out worked on the ground and lost the standing portions badly. It really isn't supposed to matter how long you are on top of someone in a round if you are losing damage, strikes landed, and submission attempts by a large margin.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:06 AM   #324 (permalink)
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Firstly you are clearly delusional if you think GSP was winning the striking exchanges after the second round. The third is impossible to give to GSP under the scoring criteria as well he got outdamaged even when he was on top; in fact he basically did nothing that entire round except get his ass kicked.

I gave Condit the fifth which was competitive but again he got out worked on the ground and lost the standing portions badly. It really isn't supposed to matter how long you are on top of someone in a round if you are losing damage, strikes landed, and submission attempts by a large margin.
I'm not delusional in the slightest. I felt with the exception of the one kick, and one combo, Condit standing had nothing for GSP.

GSP controlled the entire fight. Round 5 went to GSP. Round 3 was close to call. I could definitely see how you could score it for Condit... or GSP.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:15 AM   #325 (permalink)
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No. GSP didn't lose the stand-up exchanges to Condit, minus the one where he wound up on his arse. Each time they engaged on the feet, GSP wound up pressuring Carlos back into the fence, where he set up some beautiful takedowns. That's my take anyway.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:35 AM   #326 (permalink)
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GSP doesn't win fights, he beats his opponents .... sure, a big first round KO is exciting, but if you are beaten by a good punch in the first round you can easily say to yourself ..."okay, my mistake, next time I need to watch out for that punch and fight a better game' .... when GSP rag dolls you for 5 rounds how do you recover from that? You can't tell yourself "he was just lucky for 5 rounds."

Probably makes a lot pf opponents question whether they belong in the UFC WW division.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:58 AM   #328 (permalink)
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First off, holy balls, what a fight.

Second, the two 50-45 judges should never be allowed to score fights again. GSP had nothing for Condit after the knockdown except for top control. Condit outstruck GSP starting with round 3, he even outdamaged GSP off his back. I see how under the current criteria GSP probably won these rounds but make no mistake about it, GSP was on the defense for most of the 4th and 5th round. Condit won that fight off his back (yeah, I said it). But since you can't win off your back in MMA I can see the 49-46, the 50-45 I will ignore or else I'll go crazy.
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lol, 'nothing for Carlos but top control'... aka, 75% of MMA
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:03 AM   #330 (permalink)
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Condit throws too much goofy shit. He thinks he is a ninja but he isn't.
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