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Georges St-Pierre 52 72.22%
Carlos Condit 20 27.78%
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:06 AM   #331 (permalink)
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I must say, I was incredibly imbressed (lol) with how quickly GSP engaged once he got up after getting knocked down. once he stood up he pressured Condit back to the cage... while being hurt.. I don't think his chin or mental toughness can ever be questioned again.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:07 AM   #332 (permalink)
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GSP needs to live his whole life and still will never be a fighter like that !!!

GSP is only a strategy guy, he wins by UD. Since when did he win with a TKO? KO? Didn't the world go WAR on Anderson because he won UD against Maia, and the Leites lamer? In his whole successful career of fuc***ing opponents and smashing heads he won those by UD, and the world BOOED him to death.

Why isn't that happening with the big LAMER in the whole UFC today? The guy who learned Dan Hardy that stands and bangs that he has to play by a game plan. Do strategies, and score points !!! This is not soccer, the true soul of MMA is getting ruined by such lame fighters.

I will always be a fan of a fighter such as Condit, Bonnar, etc. Those entered the octagon to fight, to do WAR, not to lay and pray !!! And score fuc***ing points!!!

I really wish the UFC puts a rule that the Championships bouts must be finished without the Judges. I hate those score cards, I like to see only blood. Not Nestle drinking fighters!!!

Get back soon Condit, this is just your start....
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:07 AM   #333 (permalink)
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lol, 'nothing for Carlos but top control'... aka, 75% of MMA
This is MMA, not wrestling. People get that mixed up sometimes, I know. Even the people who make the rules. And I don't blame the fighters who go by these rules, I blame the system.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:14 AM   #334 (permalink)
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This is MMA, not wrestling. People get that mixed up sometimes, I know. Even the people who make the rules. And I don't blame the fighters who go by these rules, I blame the system.
Oh come off it. I'd agree that Carlos threw more from bottom, but if you can't tell or see that GSP was also throwing elbows and strikes with an intent to injure, then I don't know what to tell you. You'll have your own view of the fight and nothing will change that, even reality. GSP came to fight last night. End of story. The fact that many people have commented on how he fought more recklessly than usual shows that GSP fought more with heart than mind. He wanted to finish. He wanted to bring it to Carlos. And he did.

There was not one round where GSP just cruised along in top control. But you go ahead and think that. I'm no longer interested in trying to convince people otherwise.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:17 AM   #335 (permalink)
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Condit throws too much goofy shit. He thinks he is a ninja but he isn't.
Lolz...that's how he fights. It's very tricky actually. There's a guy in my gym that fights like em. Half is feints other is because he was hesistant and 10% was probably because he was confused. Couldn't you tell...hehe. He didn't know what was working any more, he tried to do a flying knee several times and before he launched GSP was clear out of the way already. Then he went for his patented 3+4 combos over and over. Worked in the beginning, but towards the end it was useless. It's actually pretty clever cuz he slows it down, mixes it up, and sometimes he doesn't finish with the kick. He fights somewhat similar to Cerrone. He goes with awkward angles. I like his kicks though especially his Brazillian. Unfortunately he doesn't have much power in his kicks. Not the way Mirko, Hardonk, Barry, Aldo, Barboza, Alves or even Cerrone has. I really wish GSP would have tested more of his Muay Thai. I was waiting for him to return the spinning side kick. Imagine if that was Mirko's LHK...geezus. I think GSP really didn't see that LHK cuz he didn't even try blocking it. Boink...then he fell backwards and he must have been wondering what the hell happened...lolz!

PS: What I would give for a handicap match with Anderson w/ one hand tied vs Condit.
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Oh come off it. I'd agree that Carlos threw more from bottom, but if you can't tell or see that GSP was also throwing elbows and strikes with an intent to injure, then I don't know what to tell you. You'll have your own view of the fight and nothing will change that, even reality. GSP came to fight last night. End of story. The fact that many people have commented on how he fought more recklessly than usual shows that GSP fought more with heart than mind. He wanted to finish. He wanted to bring it to Carlos. And he did.

There was not one round where GSP just cruised along in top control. But you go ahead and think that. I'm no longer interested in trying to convince people otherwise.
I'm not knocking GSP here, I know he came to fight and he did. I'm just saying that I think Carlos did more damage from the bottom than GSP did from the top and the reason GSP won was because of his top control. I even counted strikes on the ground in the later rounds and every round I come up with numbers that favor Condit. Even in this system right now I think you have to give 3 and 4 to Condit.

I know I've got my own set of rules in my head that few people will agree with and I can see you're probably exhausted from convincing other people in this thread so I guess we'll just leave it at that.

Moving on to less frustrating things...




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Old 11-18-2012, 11:27 AM   #337 (permalink)
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Great fight from two of the greatest. Love both guys, it was hard because I didn't want either to lose. Condit showed alot of heart and skill in this loss tho so it's not that bad.
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GSP is only a strategy guy, he wins by UD. Since when did he win with a TKO? KO?
Get out of here with that nonsense and ignorance. GSP went at Condit from the first second to the last, he doesn't have heavy hands and Condit is nearly impossible to finish. GSP is the second best fighter in the world, but whatever, some people will complain and moan about anything just because they are ignorant. Your entire post was pure garbage after an insanely amazing fight between two amazing fighters, you don't deserve to watch guys like GSP and Condit fight.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:59 AM   #339 (permalink)
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This is MMA, not wrestling. People get that mixed up sometimes, I know. Even the people who make the rules. And I don't blame the fighters who go by these rules, I blame the system.
The first "M" in MMA doesn't stand for 'Striking', it stands for "Mixed'... since wrestling is one of the 'Martial Arts" in the MIX it deserves just as much respect in regard to determinng the winner as any other aspect of a recognized Martial Art.

You may have a personal preference for some other aspect of MIXED Martial Arts, but that doesn't mean that the judges are making mistakes, or that the system is to blame, it just means you don't understand what MMA actually means.

Go watch a boxing match, or a Muay Thai match if you don't think wrestling should play any part in deciding the outcome.

I can't believe I actually had to explain this!!!! Wasn't there a sticky thread somewhere that explained this basic shit to noobs?

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Firstly you are clearly delusional if you think GSP was winning the striking exchanges after the second round. The third is impossible to give to GSP under the scoring criteria as well he got outdamaged even when he was on top; in fact he basically did nothing that entire round except get his ass kicked.

I gave Condit the fifth which was competitive but again he got out worked on the ground and lost the standing portions badly. It really isn't supposed to matter how long you are on top of someone in a round if you are losing damage, strikes landed, and submission attempts by a large margin.
I guess all the judges and everyone else watching the fight, including all the other fighters were delusional too. Condit too, since I didn't hear him saying anything like, "I got robbed, stoopid judges".

I give Condit full credit for a great and aggressive guard, but I'll say it again. Losing less does not = winning. Yeah he tried for subs. He didn't get them. He threw a lot of strikes from the bottom, but they did not damage GSP more than the ones GSP was throwing from the top, I simply have no idea why you would think that. GSP was marked up, but Condit was a mess, and looked and acted beaten after the fight, probably because he was beaten.

Don't confuse 'trying' with 'succeeding'. Condit has great heart, and he tried as hard as anyone could, but you don't get points for trying and failing.
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