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post #351 of 404 (permalink) Old 11-18-2012, 02:47 PM
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Haters are going to hate. Every single time. They were looking for some straws to pull from this great fight and all they got is the UD. Some try CC did more damage but they themselves know they are being very partial but they can't resist it.

As it is, this was a great fight. GSP is also coming off of a long lay off, due to an injury. People tend to forget that in their hatred for him.
The head kick followed up by gnp were quite clearly the most significant and damaging aspects of the entire fight. No hating, that's just a fact. Whilst GSP did cut Condit wide open, he never actually rocked Carlos or came close to finishing him at any point in the fight.
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The head kick followed up by gnp were quite clearly the most significant and damaging aspects of the entire fight. No hating, that's just a fact. Whilst GSP did cut Condit wide open, he never actually rocked Carlos or came close to finishing him at any point in the fight.
GSP not finishing Hardy was lame. He not "going for the kill" against Shields was really lame after knocking him down with a head kick was super lame. However, I will not hold anything against GSP with CC.

CC is the ONLY person who didnt break against the onslaught, didnt mentally give up. Appreciate CC for that. The ONLY guy who actually fought against GSP as if he is fighting anyone else. Everyone who fought against GSP was already defeated even before the fight started but CC was an exception. Not finishing CC didnt surprise me. I doubt anyone would, unless they can get a flash KO.
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I don't hate him, nothing personal, but for me he needs to finish fights.
What you would like to say is that - for you - it would be nice if GSP finished his fights, because it's a plain fact he does not need to finish nobody to continue to be the undisputed UFC WW Champion. After all, we don't like when he doesn't finish, but hey, who is finishing him?




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GSP not finishing Hardy was lame. He not "going for the kill" against Shields was really lame after knocking him down with a head kick was super lame. However, I will not hold anything against GSP with CC.

CC is the ONLY person who didnt break against the onslaught, didnt mentally give up. Appreciate CC for that. The ONLY guy who actually fought against GSP as if he is fighting anyone else. Everyone who fought against GSP was already defeated even before the fight started but CC was an exception. Not finishing CC didnt surprise me. I doubt anyone would, unless they can get a flash KO.
I completely agree and I wasn't knocking GSP for not finishing Carlos, I was just pointing out that he didn't actually come close to ever finishing the fight (whilst Carlos did). That doesn't mean I don't think GSP was trying to go for the finish, he absolutely was, and I commend him for that. Carlos Condit is just very active and dangerous from his back and incredibly hard to put away.

The posts on here claiming that GSP did more damage to Carlos in the fight though are simply false.
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I don't hate him, nothing personal, but for me he needs to finish fights.
Fair enough. He isn't fulfilling your expectations and for that, you don't like him much. You do give credit where it deserves. No one can fault you for having your own opinion and expectations
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And addressing the GSP/Silva fight, I don't blame GSP for not wanting that fight because Silva will destroy him, and he knows this. He is also the smaller fighter, that has nothing to prove anyone (except himself maybe and the GOAT status) fighting not only a higher weight class fighter, but THE best fighter in the planet P4P.
This whole excuse can be transferred to Silva/Jones potential match, but ppl normally feel so pitiful for "poor" small GSP, like he was handicapped or smth and not the outstanting athlete he is, ready for a good challenge. In the other hand, ppl tend to call Anderson a coward for not fighting Jones, a very impressive talented fighter, actually a HW cuting to LHW, being Anderson the eldest of the three by good margin. Needless to say nobody called nobody yet.

PS: I am also not interest in the Anderson/GSP fight for similar reasons, just bringing the point.


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I guess all the judges and everyone else watching the fight, including all the other fighters were delusional too. Condit too, since I didn't hear him saying anything like, "I got robbed, stoopid judges".

I give Condit full credit for a great and aggressive guard, but I'll say it again. Losing less does not = winning. Yeah he tried for subs. He didn't get them. He threw a lot of strikes from the bottom, but they did not damage GSP more than the ones GSP was throwing from the top, I simply have no idea why you would think that. GSP was marked up, but Condit was a mess, and looked and acted beaten after the fight, probably because he was beaten.

Don't confuse 'trying' with 'succeeding'. Condit has great heart, and he tried as hard as anyone could, but you don't get points for trying and failing.
You are clearly an insane person whose argument is based solely on the insane and irrational thoughts that bounce around your schizophrenic brain and not a factual reality.
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I really think George was trying to finish.


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This whole excuse can be transfered to Silva/Jones potential match, but ppl normally feel so pitiful for "poor" small GSP, like he was handicapped or smth and not the outstanting athlete he is, ready for a good challenge. In the other hand, ppl tend to call Anderson a coward for not fighting Jones, a very impressive talented fighter, actually a HW cuting to LHW, being Anderson the eldest of the three by good margin. Needless to say nobody called nobody yet.

PS: I am also not interest in the Anderson/GSP fight for similar reasons, just bringing the point.
Agreed. It is ok in peoples eyes for Anderson to be undersized vs. Jones. Being 12 years his elder as well. But it isn't ok for a younger, also top P4P fighter to be at a size disadvantage.

When anyone talks about GSP they talk about how he is the best wrestler in the game. How he is so well-rounded. How he takes a guy like Rashad down in practice. How he is so dominant. But when Anderson comes around all that magically goes out the window. All of a sudden there is no confidence in him. All of a sudden an average wrestler will stuff all his attempts. You would think GSP is a mid-tier WW when you hear people talk about it being unfair. It really confuses me.
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The difference being that one fights at LHW often while the other has never left WW. I realize you're trying to make a point, but at least appreciate that there are differences between GSP vs. Silva and Silva vs. Jones. Silva just threw Stefan Bonnar - a large LHW - around like it was nothing. GSP would clearly be giving up more size to Anderson than Anderson would to Jones. I'm not saying it's an excuse, but treating GSP vs. Silva as similar to Silva vs. Jones is reaching.

Anyway, all of this is getting tiresome. If the fight happens, then great. Needless to say the contract won't be signed because of the bickering of a few fanboys on MMAF.
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