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post #381 of 404 (permalink) Old 11-19-2012, 09:38 AM
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GSP cant finish condit, probably ever.. i dont know why GSP and his fans thought he could finish the toughest and hardest chin at WW.. he simply doesn't have the power to achieve the knockout, and condits bjj is simply too good to get subbed.. GSPs bjj is completely focused on sub defence and positioning, he is fairly poor at the submissions themselves..
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GSP cant finish condit, probably ever.. i dont know why GSP and his fans thought he could finish the toughest and hardest chin at WW.. he simply doesn't have the power to achieve the knockout, and condits bjj is simply too good to get subbed.. GSPs bjj is completely focused on sub defence and positioning, he is fairly poor at the submissions themselves..
he is poor with submissions, especially when against someone with decent BJJ/wrestling, why risk losing the position he dominates in etc. its pretty obvious by now he plays a nice safe GNP game just controlling and doing enough to not get stood up. that being said his double leg is a work of art along with some of his striking, he has a great superman punch etc, i always love watching him fight, one of the most humble UFC fighters ever.
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Head kick

man that head kick was nasty!!!! that almost put GSP down. but that was a war and for his first fight back you have to admit GSP came ready!!!!
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man that head kick was nasty!!!! that almost put GSP down. but that was a war and for his first fight back you have to admit GSP came ready!!!!
Yeah, the kick came out of nowhere. GSP could've defended it, had he held his hands up but Condit was in a really weird angle. Wonder how the head kick would've turned out on the other guy's in the division.

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Yeah, the kick came out of nowhere. GSP could've defended it, had he held his hands up but Condit was in a really weird angle. Wonder how the head kick would've turned out on the other guy's in the division.
It was a hell of a shot; and GSP was rocked for maybe half of one second.

I wonder what those who question/ed his chin have to say now...

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Well that kick was nasty but and i am a GSP fan but I cant lie i don't think he will be able to handle Johny Hendricky!!!! That last KO was crazy and his wrestling is good so i think that will be a good one!!!!!
Like that kick, it's the punch you don't see that often puts your lights out. Hendricks has the power to blast anyone out at WW. The question there is, will GSP allow him to throw that leather?

On a side note, I found this little article on GSP leading up to the fight:

http://blogs.canoe.ca/scrapyard/gene...ller-instinct/

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Well that kick was nasty but and i am a GSP fan but I cant lie i don't think he will be able to handle Johny Hendricky!!!! That last KO was crazy and his wrestling is good so i think that will be a good one!!!!!
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Yeah, the kick came out of nowhere. GSP could've defended it, had he held his hands up but Condit was in a really weird angle. Wonder how the head kick would've turned out on the other guy's in the division.
Well that kick was nasty but and i am a GSP fan but I cant lie i don't think he will be able to handle Johny Hendricky!!!! That last KO was crazy and his wrestling is good so i think that will be a good one!!!!!
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he is poor with submissions, especially when against someone with decent BJJ/wrestling, why risk losing the position he dominates in etc. its pretty obvious by now he plays a nice safe GNP game just controlling and doing enough to not get stood up. that being said his double leg is a work of art along with some of his striking, he has a great superman punch etc, i always love watching him fight, one of the most humble UFC fighters ever.
I think anyone who says GSP is a "safe fighter" is clueless. There's no such thing as safe cage fighting, GSP was trying the entire fight to find a spot to finish Carlos but Carlos was way too tough to give him anything.

GSP not finishing Carlos is a sign of Carlos being an animal, GSP doesn't have great submissions, he doesn't have heavy hands and he doesn't have a granite chin (the same kick that knocked GSP down Diaz walked through). GSP does what he can with the tools he has, he gives everything he has yet people still criticize. It's not like he says I'm going to set up the takedown with a punch then lay on him the entire round, GSP goes out determined to give everything he has and he does, he just doesn't have the physical tools to finish people, I don't see how that makes him a safe fighter.

He was tenaciously trying to get passed Condit's guard so your idea that he is content to do barely enough to keep it on the ground is ignorant at best. Condit wrapped GSP up and was extremely effective at not letting GSP mount him, GSP spent a solid 2 minutes trying to get his left leg free in one scramble so he could get side control but Condit wouldn't let go. GSP was jumping up and down trying to shake his leg free but Condit stuck on it knowing it was the only thing preventing him getting seriously hurt. If you are going to insult a fighter's heart and will you better actually found it in reality.
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I think anyone who says GSP is a "safe fighter" is clueless. There's no such thing as safe cage fighting, GSP was trying the entire fight to find a spot to finish Carlos but Carlos was way too tough to give him anything.

GSP not finishing Carlos is a sign of Carlos being an animal, GSP doesn't have great submissions, he doesn't have heavy hands and he doesn't have a granite chin (the same kick that knocked GSP down Diaz walked through). GSP does what he can with the tools he has, he gives everything he has yet people still criticize. It's not like he says I'm going to set up the takedown with a punch then lay on him the entire round, GSP goes out determined to give everything he has and he does, he just doesn't have the physical tools to finish people, I don't see how that makes him a safe fighter.

He was tenaciously trying to get passed Condit's guard so your idea that he is content to do barely enough to keep it on the ground is ignorant at best. Condit wrapped GSP up and was extremely effective at not letting GSP mount him, GSP spent a solid 2 minutes trying to get his left leg free in one scramble so he could get side control but Condit wouldn't let go. GSP was jumping up and down trying to shake his leg free but Condit stuck on it knowing it was the only thing preventing him getting seriously hurt. If you are going to insult a fighter's heart and will you better actually found it in reality.
It's a good point I also mentioned in the previous threads. GSP does employ a risk adverse strategy, but he definitely tries to hurt his opponent as much as he can; Fitch, Alves, BJ Penn, Serra, Hughes, and Condit. I believe he seemed very stiff against Shields, was very close to finishing Hardy, Koscheck is the only fight where I think he could have really stepped it up finishing with a left high kick or left hook capitalizing on Koscheck's broken orbital.

I don't think for a second GSP wants to be in there any longer than he wants to be. No intelligent fighter would. It's taxing + damaging to the body and mind to have to go through these wars. You ever spar, imagine how long it takes for them to heal. Some of those injuries never heal properly. GSP like Frankie Edgar are stuck with the tools they have so they gotta put on what I call the "blue collar" work ethic and basically outhustle and outsmart their opponents.

PS: That is interesting that Nick absorbed that same kick although GSP didn't see it. Tricky move. Condit vs Nate Marquardt would be intriguing to me or BJ Penn.

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