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post #31 of 69 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 12:36 PM
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I mean whatever, Bigfoot called him out.

But makes little sense really. Reem was getting a title shot and failed a test.

Meanwhile, Bigfoot lost to 2 guys brutally. 2 men who were much smaller, tooled him on the feet and on the ground in Cain's case. He then faces the GREAT Travis Browne, Browne hops up and down like an idiot and injures his knee. Bigfoot proceeds to KO an immobile Travis Browne.

So that means you set up Bigfoot/Reem? Not sure why Bigfoot gets all these elite matchups. Perhaps because he is marketable beyond his talents.
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I mean whatever, Bigfoot called him out.

But makes little sense really. Reem was getting a title shot and failed a test.

Meanwhile, Bigfoot lost to 2 guys brutally. 2 men who were much smaller, tooled him on the feet and on the ground in Cain's case. He then faces the GREAT Travis Browne, Browne hops up and down like an idiot and injures his knee. Bigfoot proceeds to KO an immobile Travis Browne.

So that means you set up Bigfoot/Reem? Not sure why Bigfoot gets all these elite matchups. Perhaps because he is marketable beyond his talents.
It's a showcase fight but Overeem's been out for a while and it's not like he beat the Brock of 08/09, he beat a withered, faded, ruined by a serious illness Brock Lesnar and Bigfoot is still ranked in about the lower end of the top, 8-10 range so it's a plausible match up on that front.

I remember last year after Bigfoot/Fedor and Overeem/Werdum a lot of people were actually picking Bigfoot but he's been trashed twice now and Overeem looked amazing against Brock. This is just a showcase fight for Reem, he'll destroy Bigfoot, people will go "OMG! Overeem vs. dos Santos? I'ma buy dat shit!" and then JDS will do his thing and beat him up.

Bigfoot is just too slow and after he went out and threw a kick first thing against Cain I'm convinced he's a bit of a dumbass as well so this will be a mauling for Reem.

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Whoever hasn't read this hilarious article about Fujitas skull, do it:

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Kind of see Overeem being the one to crack that mystery here as well. Cormier showed us how to put it out, Cain opened it up to see what's inside and Overeem will in fact make it explode.
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I really can't imagne a conversation with the guy who wrote the article. Everything there is pure genius.

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Seanbaby is awesome. Look up some of his other articles. They are all awesome. He even has an entire article dedicated to insulting Koscheck.

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It's a showcase fight but Overeem's been out for a while and it's not like he beat the Brock of 08/09, he beat a withered, faded, ruined by a serious illness Brock Lesnar and Bigfoot is still ranked in about the lower end of the top, 8-10 range so it's a plausible match up on that front.


Look i'm not gonna say the illness did not affect him, but come on now. Withered, faded, and ruined? That's really pushing it.

Brock never liked getting hit in the first place. That was obvious from the get go. Up against someone like Overeem who he can't simply out muscle and bring to the ground he was left with no recourse but to strike with a much better striker. How exactly would this fight have gone differently in 08/09? Brock certainly gained skill from 08/09 so do you really think that a small loss in muscle mass would really break Lesnar, or ruin him, as you put it?

The fact is Lesnar was never good, he just came to the UFC at a perfect time and got perfect opponents. Let's look at his record:

Wins:

Herring: Average fighter, much smaller than Brock, was on the way out of the MMa game.

Couture: Completely undersized compared to Brock. Literally the size difference is the same as Machida fighting Bendo. There was like a 40 pound size difference. Oh, and let's not forget Couture was an old man.

Mir: Lesnars one shining victory. Although he still used size and strength, he did show some good ground technique. I sign that he is improving, at least a bit. Lesnar also lost to Mir the first time.

Carwin: Practically a striking clone of Brock. Carwin is a terrible fighter that relies on size and power forgoing technique. Brock barely won, too. Carwin had him near finished and few would have argued if the fight was stopped. Brock showed how average he really was in this fight.

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Cain: Lesnar got exposed. A much smaller man with much, much, much more skill makes him look silly. Before his illness "ruined" him, as you put it.

Overeem: Lesnar is up against someone his own size for the first time. The only problem is Overeem is a much, much better striker, and since Lesnar can't simply use his size to drag Overeem down, we got the result we did: Lesnar was forced to strike and got exposed again.


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Look i'm not gonna say the illness did not affect him, but come on now. Withered, faded, and ruined? That's really pushing it.

Brock never liked getting hit in the first place. That was obvious from the get go. Up against someone like Overeem who he can't simply out muscle and bring to the ground he was left with no recourse but to strike with a much better striker. How exactly would this fight have gone differently in 08/09? Brock certainly gained skill from 08/09 so do you really think that a small loss in muscle mass would really break Lesnar, or ruin him, as you put it?

The fact is Lesnar was never good, he just came to the UFC at a perfect time and got perfect opponents. Let's look at his record:

Wins:

Herring: Average fighter, much smaller than Brock, was on the way out of the MMa game.

Couture: Completely undersized compared to Brock. Literally the size difference is the same as Machida fighting Bendo. There was like a 40 pound size difference. Oh, and let's not forget Couture was an old man.

Mir: Lesnars one shining victory. Although he still used size and strength, he did show some good ground technique. I sign that he is improving, at least a bit. Lesnar also lost to Mir the first time.

Carwin: Practically a striking clone of Brock. Terrible fighter that relies on size and power forgoing technique. Brock barely won, too. Carwin had him near finished and few would have argued if the fight was stopped. Brock showed how average he really was in this fight.

Losses:

Cain: Lesnar got exposed. A much smaller man with much, much, much more skill makes him look silly. Before he illness "ruined" him, as you put it.

Overeem: Lesnar is up against someone his own size for the first time. The only problem is Overeem is a much, much better striker, and since Lesnar can't simply use his size to drag Overeem down, we got the result we did: Lesnar was forced to strike and got exposed again.
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Fight makes sense, I'd say Reem re-earns his title shot in nasty fashion... But if Silva wins this, we have another new title challenger.

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Look i'm not gonna say the illness did not affect him, but come on now. Withered, faded, and ruined? That's really pushing it.

Brock never liked getting hit in the first place. That was obvious from the get go. Up against someone like Overeem who he can't simply out muscle and bring to the ground he was left with no recourse but to strike with a much better striker. How exactly would this fight have gone differently in 08/09? Brock certainly gained skill from 08/09 so do you really think that a small loss in muscle mass would really break Lesnar, or ruin him, as you put it?

The fact is Lesnar was never good, he just came to the UFC at a perfect time and got perfect opponents. Let's look at his record:

Wins:

Herring: Average fighter, much smaller than Brock, was on the way out of the MMa game.

Couture: Completely undersized compared to Brock. Literally the size difference is the same as Machida fighting Bendo. There was like a 40 pound size difference. Oh, and let's not forget Couture was an old man.

Mir: Lesnars one shining victory. Although he still used size and strength, he did show some good ground technique. I sign that he is improving, at least a bit. Lesnar also lost to Mir the first time.

Carwin: Practically a striking clone of Brock. Carwin is a terrible fighter that relies on size and power forgoing technique. Brock barely won, too. Carwin had him near finished and few would have argued if the fight was stopped. Brock showed how average he really was in this fight.

Losses:

Cain: Lesnar got exposed. A much smaller man with much, much, much more skill makes him look silly. Before his illness "ruined" him, as you put it.

Overeem: Lesnar is up against someone his own size for the first time. The only problem is Overeem is a much, much better striker, and since Lesnar can't simply use his size to drag Overeem down, we got the result we did: Lesnar was forced to strike and got exposed again.
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You can rant all you want dude.

pre-illness Brock and post-illness Brock is a real thing, you hater.
I spent time to actually type out reasons why I don't think there is adifference between pre and post illness Lesnar and all you give me is that?

Do you at least have one argument as to why you think the illness affected him so deeply? Or are you just trolling me?


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