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Old 11-16-2012, 09:40 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Weren't they on the same season. That was too easy for Roy although I did enjoy Kimbo vs Nelson.

As long as Matt doesn't get taken down I think he'll do alright. I think Carwin w/ good cardio would have smashed Nelson.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Roy was never going to run through Carwin. Anyone saying that doesn't have the first clue. It's simply that Carwin hasn't fought in so long, and when he last did, he was demolished by the current HW champion. As someone else once told me, in the eyes of today's fickle MMA fans, you're only as good as your last fight.

Carwin would have made mincemeat out of Nelson.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Roy was never going to run through Carwin. Anyone saying that doesn't have the first clue. It's simply that Carwin hasn't fought in so long, and when he last did, he was demolished by the current HW champion. As someone else once told me, in the eyes of today's fickle MMA fans, you're only as good as your last fight.

Carwin would have made mincemeat out of Nelson.
Run through him? I mean if either guy won it was prolly by running through them. The HW division isn't really about close fights. Roy KOs Carwin early. Or Carwin KO's Roy early. Or Carwin gasses and gets finished.

I think people who think Carwin is a top 10 HW still are delusional. He beat up Frank Mir who sucks vs. that type of opponent. What else? He punches Brock in the face and Brock turtled up? Then he lost anyway? He KO'd the great Gabe Gonzaga? Carwin has massive power, but he hasn't beat any real good HWs. Not that Roy is awesome. But he has experience, has a KO punch himself that seems to land, he has one of the best chins in MMA, he has the BJJ advantage by a mile. It is sad but he has the cardio and speed advantage. He is actually sort of healthy.

I mean people hoping for Carwin to return and be a top 5 HW...are just kidding themselves. He would get trashed by most all of the top 10. At least in my opinion. The only thing I have ever been impressed with from Carwin is his power. He can beat anyone with that on a given day. But he really never was a great MMA fighter.

I really am baffled to see so many hanging on to the prayer that Carwin will even fight again...let alone beat good HWs. Carwin is done and has been done for a while. I have been saying this for a while.

What strikers has he handled? Is Gonzo considered a good striker these days or ever? Is Mir a striker? Is Brock Lesnar a striker? I mean he knocks out punks that can't strike and can't take him down. Carwin would gas through half a round and Roy would find his chin in my opinion.

How is anyone being fickle about Carwin? He never was that impressive. And how can you ignore the fact that he is a broken down, old, slow fighter. He's done..face reality.
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Most of you are underestimating Mitrione!!!!

I'm 100% sure he will leave with the "W". Mitrione is evolving every time he enters the cage, were Roy is still depending on his chin only!!!

Mitrione will outstrike Roy, and if Roy takes the fight to the ground? He will be either Pwnded or Submited.
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I don't think Meathead is ready for Roy. Even if he is able to keep it standing, I think he eats some hard punches and crumbles.
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Might be time for Carwin to consider hanging em up. I've got a little more faith in Mitrione than most of you. I'd like to wonder what kind of fighter if he would be now if he started training a decade ago. Meathead has a good shot if he uses his length and footwork and peppers Roy from a distance. Matt is 100x the athlete Nelson is, and should be able work his game and power out of takedowns.
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Might be time for Carwin to consider hanging em up. I've got a little more faith in Mitrione than most of you. I'd like to wonder what kind of fighter if he would be now if he started training a decade ago. Meathead has a good shot if he uses his length and footwork and peppers Roy from a distance. Matt is 100x the athlete Nelson is, and should be able work his game and power out of takedowns.
You are absolutely right, Meathead is a great athlete and would be interesting to see what would have happened if he got into MMA sooner.
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Run through him? I mean if either guy won it was prolly by running through them. The HW division isn't really about close fights. Roy KOs Carwin early. Or Carwin KO's Roy early. Or Carwin gasses and gets finished.

I think people who think Carwin is a top 10 HW still are delusional. He beat up Frank Mir who sucks vs. that type of opponent. What else? He punches Brock in the face and Brock turtled up? Then he lost anyway? He KO'd the great Gabe Gonzaga? Carwin has massive power, but he hasn't beat any real good HWs. Not that Roy is awesome. But he has experience, has a KO punch himself that seems to land, he has one of the best chins in MMA, he has the BJJ advantage by a mile. It is sad but he has the cardio and speed advantage. He is actually sort of healthy.

I mean people hoping for Carwin to return and be a top 5 HW...are just kidding themselves. He would get trashed by most all of the top 10. At least in my opinion. The only thing I have ever been impressed with from Carwin is his power. He can beat anyone with that on a given day. But he really never was a great MMA fighter.

I really am baffled to see so many hanging on to the prayer that Carwin will even fight again...let alone beat good HWs. Carwin is done and has been done for a while. I have been saying this for a while.

What strikers has he handled? Is Gonzo considered a good striker these days or ever? Is Mir a striker? Is Brock Lesnar a striker? I mean he knocks out punks that can't strike and can't take him down. Carwin would gas through half a round and Roy would find his chin in my opinion.

How is anyone being fickle about Carwin? He never was that impressive. And how can you ignore the fact that he is a broken down, old, slow fighter. He's done..face reality.
Take a breather, sport. Where did I say that I ever considered Carwin a top HW? Or that I thought he was going to make a comeback? I simply said that Roy was never going to run through him. I'd have picked Carwin over Nelson any day, but that doesn't mean I hold Shane in high regard. I've never thought too much of Roy Nelson... he's good for taking some vicious beatings and putting on a show, but he's hardly a top HW himself. Roy Nelson has lost to every half decent HW he's faced. Fact. To suggest that he would have fallen to Shane Carwin as well is hardly ludicrous of me.
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I don't think either guy is a top HW. But to suggest that Nelson would handle Carwin easily is ridiculous. Both guys are extremely tough and durable, which would lead me to believe that this fight could have easily gone the distance....and if I had to give the edge to which guy would finish the fight I would pick Carwin by KO.

Now...back to the actual topic at hand - Mitrione. He's a great athlete and a really tough guy with a lot of potential, but he just looked terrible in the Kongo fight. I think Roy will be too tough and too experienced. I still expect a competitive fight though.
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