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Old 11-18-2012, 01:32 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Not really... GSP still took that fight with BJ. Even though that fight was at 170... BJ never even made it their. He weighed in at 167lbs or something low like that. So GSP had a Huge advantage over LIL Penn.
And that is GSPs problem how exactly? Penn was the LW title holder, and challenged GSP for the WW belt as well. He wanted both belts. If he didn't bulk up enough that's not GSPs fault. He took the fight because Penn challenged him, he wasn't going to quit and give Penn the belt when Penn came in a few pounds under weight.

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Old 11-18-2012, 01:47 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Penn is more than capable of holding his own at WW. How quickly people forget that he defeated Matt Hughes - the first time when Hughes was in his prime - and held the WW championship. I won't deny that GSP was the larger fighter, but the fact is that BJ was outclassed nonetheless.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:01 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Penn is more than capable of holding his own at WW. How quickly people forget that he defeated Matt Hughes - the first time when Hughes was in his prime - and held the WW championship. I won't deny that GSP was the larger fighter, but the fact is that BJ was outclassed nonetheless.
So in other words Penn, a man who could of made 145 if he was committed to his training and body was capable at 170.

And GSP a 170er...is not capable at 178.

I got ya. And that is my point.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:09 PM   #104 (permalink)
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So in other words Penn, a man who could of made 145 if he was committed to his training and body was capable at 170.

And GSP a 170er...is not capable at 178.

I got ya. And that is my point.
Come on. You know full well I've never made the 'he's too small argument'. GSP could easily make 185, but he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to fight Anderson Silva. GSP is very intelligent and he probably knows that fight would end badly for him. And frankly, if he doesn't want to fight Anderson and is content to rule over WW and go down as one of the greatest fighters of all time, he's earned that right.

I know people want him to come right out and say that he's afraid to fight Anderson Silva, but that's very unlikely to happen. He's attempting to put these talks to rest in his own way, and people should know enough by now to take a hint and move on.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #105 (permalink)
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What are you talking about? Sherk was a WW fighter when he fought GSP, he dropped down to LW later.

BJ Penn was fighting at WW and even MW before resigning with the UFC and fighting GSP at UFC 58 for the #1 WW contender.

The second time Penn was the LW champion and challenged GSP because he wanted 2 belts.

GSP has never beat up on a 155er that wasn't fighting at WW at the time, or wanted the fight.

Slight difference from this situation.
Not a real difference. All competed at 155. All were natural 155ers, maybe even smaller. Not many guys used to cut massive weight back then. Those were all good wins, and they all were better at 155 or more suited for that. GSP was much bigge than each.

GSP made a name fighting much smaller guys. Guys who spent a lot of their careers as 155ers.

If we are talking size, those guys were just as small as GSP would be to Anderson. And they fought out of weight at 170, while Anderson is willing to meet GSP.

I'm sorry that Anderson is such a bitch for wanting to fight the #2 P4P in the world. Sorry he wants to fight one of the greatest of all time. How dare him.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:13 PM   #106 (permalink)
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To be fair, Matt Hughes, Jason Miller, Dan Hardy, Jon Fitch, Jake Shields, Thiago Alves, and Carlos Condit were all just as big as GSP, if not bigger.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Come on. You know full well I've never made the 'he's too small argument'. GSP could easily make 185, but he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to fight Anderson Silva. GSP is very intelligent and he probably knows that fight would end badly for him. And frankly, if he doesn't want to fight Anderson and is content to rule over WW and go down as one of the greatest fighters of all time, he's earned that right.

I know people want him to come right out and say that he's afraid to fight Anderson Silva, but that's very unlikely to happen. He's attempting to put these talks to rest in his own way, and people should know enough by now to take a hint and move on.
I don't think people need to read peoples minds and take hints.

He is one of the best of all time. Its his call. Just say it. Why do we have to hint at stuff? He has said yes and no several times over the last couple years.

It is fine if he wants to stay at WW. It is his call.

Diaz should scoop that fight up. Would do good numbers, Diaz has a big enough fan base. Diaz wants that fight.

Anderson should really just go fight Bones then retire win or lose. There aren't really any big fights left.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:22 PM   #108 (permalink)
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To be fair, Matt Hughes, Jason Miller, Dan Hardy, Jon Fitch, Jake Shields, Thiago Alves, and Carlos Condit were all just as big as GSP, if not bigger.
Agreed they were. Most of those guys are the same size or just taller.

He didn't fight all smaller men. But he fought a few that were deemed as great wins.

But BJ Penn is a badass. He didn't care if he was giving up 20lbs.

Just as GSP was able to wrestle the 6'2 Condit, the 6 foot Hardy, the 6'1 Fitch. He should be able to wrestle the 6'2 Anderson...no? The best wrestler in MMA can't wrestle a 185er with average wrestling? Hmmmm
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GSP made a name fighting much smaller guys. Guys who spent a lot of their careers as 155ers.
He's fought 2 guys that have fought at 155. Sherk and Penn!

Everyone else he's fought has always been a WW fighter, or somebody like Miller and Fitch who have fought at WW, MW, LHW...

I believe Sherk dropped down to LW after the GSP fight, but he had over 30 fights under his belt at WW.

Look at who else GSP has fought... Shields, KOS, Hardy, Alves, Serra, Huges, Trigg, etc.

You're really not making much sense dude..
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There's only 1 poster crying in these threads, and I just quoted him.
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