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Old 11-17-2012, 02:03 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Silva makes way more money fighting GSP and it's an easier fight for him versus fighting Jon Jones where he will most likely get taken down and pounded on and make less money.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Actually, none of these guys should be fighting at all, Anderson needs to do his job and defend his belt. Anderson is the one whose pushing for this fight, GSP has said a thousand times he wants to focus on 170.

But the difference is, GSP has never fought outside of 170 in the UFC, Anderson has gone up to Light Heavyweight three times and he's won all three fights in the first round by KO. So if one of these Super Fights does happen, why shouldn't it be between the Light Heavyweight Champion and the guy whose gone up to Light Heavyweight three times and stopped a former Champ who was ranked in the top five at the time?

I'll tell you why, Anderson knows he'd end up on his back and he'd bleed and he'd have no answer for Jones and he'd get pounded out, so now he wants to build his legacy and pick on a guy 15 lbs lighter than him.
Dude it's supply and demand. It's not like Anderson has been pushing for this fight for years. It's GSP fans literally think their favorite fighter stands a chance against the GOAT, so Dana wants to give the fans what they want.

So when Anderson is like "Ok, I'll do it", people are like "He's picking on the lighter guy, what a cheater!!!".

As an Anderson fan, I don't need this fight to happen. I know what will happen. I DO think Jones is an actual challenge but realistically, at his age, he doesn't really have anything left to prove.

And picking a side for these superstars ...it's all sematics.

Anderson hasn't beaten top quality opponents...

GSP got knocked out by Matt Serra and doesn't finish fights...

Jon Jones has beaten has beens and smaller fighters...

You can make any of them sound less impressive. But if we as fight fans get to see any of them fight, then we're all winners.

I just don't trust what Dana White says these days. Didn't he literally JUST say that Silva would fight Bones in 2013???
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Until I hear GSP say he'll do it I don't buy it. He would probably lose and might get clowned on, and that is very bad for his image, which he puts above everything else.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:44 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Daaaaammmnn I'm always a cynic on superfights actually happening but please be true! Let's go GSP!
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:17 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Man i dont like when Dana does this. GSP has said numerous times that he does not want that fight. It is one thing trying to push someone in to a fight in his own weight class if he is resistant. Its completely different when the guy has his own path for his career and it is competing at 170 not going up to face the p4p best fighter. You dont try and force that on someone unless both guys want it. And in that case it wouldnt be forced.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Man i dont like when Dana does this. GSP has said numerous times that he does not want that fight. It is one thing trying to push someone in to a fight in his own weight class if he is resistant. Its completely different when the guy has his own path for his career and it is competing at 170 not going up to face the p4p best fighter. You dont try and force that on someone unless both guys want it. And in that case it wouldnt be forced.
I think GSP's hesitation had more to do with moving up to 185 and being able to pack on enough muscle to not be at a strength disadvantage. No point fighting the "BJ Penn 185" with a paunch.

What they've been bandying about lately though is a catchweight fight at 180 or 178, and that I think would keep things more fair. Silva would either have to lose some muscle, or come in much more drained from a major weight cut, giving GSP an advantage in spite of his relative smaller size.

I think GSP would be more open to that, based on what he's said. He's always given bulking up as the main reason.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:27 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Am I the only one here with a "slippery slope" mentality regarding the mixing of weight classes - appreciating that at the bottom of that slope is a repeat of UFC 8?
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:31 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I think GSP's hesitation had more to do with moving up to 185 and being able to pack on enough muscle to not be at a strength disadvantage. No point fighting the "BJ Penn 185" with a paunch.

What they've been bandying about lately though is a catchweight fight at 180 or 178, and that I think would keep things more fair. Silva would either have to lose some muscle, or come in much more drained from a major weight cut, giving GSP an advantage in spite of his relative smaller size.

I think GSP would be more open to that, based on what he's said. He's always given bulking up as the main reason.
Yeah he probably is more willing to do that but that is still him going up in weight and out of his weight division. GSP thinks going up in weight and then back down can be career changing. So i have doubts that GSP really wants this instead of him being talked in to it. Especially so soon after a long lay off and injury.

Obviously this is just guesses on my part from his past interviews. I guess we will have to wait and see what he says in order to really judge if that is something he wants or if its something Dana is pushing but it is no where near sealed.

Either way though Dana should have waited after the Condit fight to announce this. And IF this fight hasnt been agreed to by both guys then he probably should have waited for that too. lol

If i was Condit i would feel like i am being looked past and maybe even feel like i am hurting potentially the biggest company pay day ever if i get the win. I dunno Condit probably does not care but its just in bad taste IMHO.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:50 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I don't see why GSP can't defend his belt again if he wins if they aren't fighting until halfway through next year.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:36 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Until I hear GSP say he'll do it I don't buy it. He would probably lose and might get clowned on, and that is very bad for his image, which he puts above everything else.
He does seem a little aprehensive when it comes to this superfight. To be honest, I just don't think he wants to focus on anything else right now other than the Condit fight. When he wins and Anderson enters the cage to challenge him, I'm sure with all his adrenaline going, GSP will accept the fight.
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