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Old 11-17-2012, 11:45 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Book it... Mr. Bandwagon Legion himself will jump right on the GSP wagon right after he beats Condit....

He will most likely put up a new avatar of GSP and start talking about how he has been a lifelong fan... LMAO....
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:49 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Dude it's supply and demand. It's not like Anderson has been pushing for this fight for years. It's GSP fans literally think their favorite fighter stands a chance against the GOAT, so Dana wants to give the fans what they want.

So when Anderson is like "Ok, I'll do it", people are like "He's picking on the lighter guy, what a cheater!!!".

As an Anderson fan, I don't need this fight to happen. I know what will happen. I DO think Jones is an actual challenge but realistically, at his age, he doesn't really have anything left to prove.

And picking a side for these superstars ...it's all sematics.

Anderson hasn't beaten top quality opponents...

GSP got knocked out by Matt Serra and doesn't finish fights...

Jon Jones has beaten has beens and smaller fighters...

You can make any of them sound less impressive. But if we as fight fans get to see any of them fight, then we're all winners.

I just don't trust what Dana White says these days. Didn't he literally JUST say that Silva would fight Bones in 2013???
This is probably one of the few times I'll agree with LyotoLeigon, and you never really addressed his point.

Silva has fought at 205 and done just fine, GSP has never fought above 170, and is quite a bit smaller than Silva.

If Anderson has nothing left to prove then why does he want to fight GSP so bad? A lot of "p4p" lists actually have GSP at #3, behind Silva and JBJ. JBJ would be the more challenging fight, and it infuriates me to see the supposed #1 fighter duck away from his biggest challenge yet.

I also really don't get what you mean that Silva has nothing left to prove at his age. Silva/Dana are the ones claiming this is the #1/#2 p4p fighter, or the "two best" fighters, yet again, most reputable lists have GSP at #3. Silva can prove he is the absolute best with a win over JBJ. I really don't think he proves that with a win against GSP.

I somewhat agree with you when you say Silva hasn't faced top quality opponents, but he has a top quality opponent available, at a weight class he's tested the waters in, and would rather take on someone lower ranked, and smaller.

But I agree with you 100%. Dana is a promoter, and says a lot of things and then changes his opinion a day later (just go back and look for a video on his stance on women in the UFC).

There is a reason Dana said this one night before the GSP / Condit fight (before GSP/Silva have formally agreed to anything). I'm thinking to probably light a fire in Condit (piss him off a little - make him feel he's being overlooked). There's also a reason why Dana is saying Silva will be watching cageside. You better believe Dana wants Silva to enter the cage and challenge GSP in front of his hometown fans. Dana knows there is a better chance of a GSP/Silva superfight, than a Silva/JBJ superfight, so he's going to do whatever it takes to sell 60,000 tickets at a stadium show. He doesn't care if its the "best" superfight or not - he knows either fight would sell out a stadium.

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Old 11-17-2012, 11:53 AM   #43 (permalink)
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ur trippin.. americans are the least racist/patriotic fans when it comes to mma.. they rally behind who they like as fighters/individuals rather than who is a fellow countryman.. this would be the biggest fight in UFC history, you cant compare it to the average fight card held in vegas..
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:55 AM   #44 (permalink)
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This is probably one of the few times I'll agree with LyotoLeigon, and you never really addressed his point.

Silva has fought at 205 and done just fine, GSP has never fought above 170, and is quite a bit smaller than Silva.
He has never went above 170 because he doesn't care to take a chance. He could easily make 185 if he allowed himself to get fat like Anderson. Yea, Anderson makes 205 with ease...because he is a fat version of himself.

Anderson has been at 168, 175, 185, 205. GSP has never had a fight outside of 170...up or down.

You all are crazy if you believe Dana is just making fights. If you guys really don't think behind closed doors GSP has said he would do that fight. Of course Dana and GSP have talked about it. Probably while GSP was out. GSP knows this. He knows that is his next fight...and he has probably has verbally agreed to it.
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I hope Dana is wearing Diapers come fight night on Saturday. Someone should zoom in on Dana's face if GSP wins. You'll see the look of a man just jizzing all over his pants at the thought of all the mad $$$$$$$ he'll rake over this super fight. Never mind if it's a good fight, or that AS is too big for GSP. This will be the MMA fight of our generation, our Ali vs Frazier. Boxing has yet to showcase Mayweather vs Pacman but if this super fight were to happen a lot of new casual fans would jump on the bandwagon. Making the sport maybe a bit more palatable to those who find it barbaric.
Actually that would be Silva vs. Bones, I tell you Silva is a miss-match for GSP, it would suck to see every1 get hyped up so much for a quick 1st round thrashing, Jones/Silva would at least be a good fight.....

Better yet, even as a GSP fan I hope Condit pulls off the upset tonight, but we will probably see GSP take him down and control him for 5 rounds and get the UD. I as a GSP fan am tired of the same oh song, I honestly want to see GSP finish him, or get finished himself.....

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He has never went above 170 because he doesn't care to take a chance. He could easily make 185 if he allowed himself to get fat like Anderson. Yea, Anderson makes 205 with ease...because he is a fat version of himself.

Anderson has been at 168, 175, 185, 205. GSP has never had a fight outside of 170...up or down.

You all are crazy if you believe Dana is just making fights. If you guys really don't think behind closed doors GSP has said he would do that fight. Of course Dana and GSP have talked about it. Probably while GSP was out. GSP knows this. He knows that is his next fight...and he has probably has verbally agreed to it.
This. There's no way Dana would allow Silva to enter the cage and challenge GSP without GSP's approval. If this fight does happen, it will be because both men want it.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:21 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Actually that would be Silva vs. Bones, I tell you Silva is a miss-match for GSP, it would suck to see every1 get hyped up so much for a quick 1st round thrashing, Jones/Silva would at least be a good fight.....
I predict that if Silva ends up thrashing GSP in the first round he will start to lay off and revert to his style of letting the other fighter push the pace. He's done this on numerous occasions (Maia, Griffin, etc) and prefers the counter-punching style. I think one of the worst outcomes to happen would be for Dana to bill this as the best two fighters ever, and then it ends like the first UFC on Fox event. If people don't already think Dana is full of shit, that would be the icing on the cake.

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Better yet, even as a GSP fan I hope Condit pulls off the upset tonight, but we will probably see GSP take him down and control him for 5 rounds and get the UD. I as a GSP fan am tired of the same oh song, I honestly want to see GSP finish him, or get finished himself.....
GSP has either been injured (He fought Shields with 1 eye for half the fight due to Shields eyepoking him all night long, and he fought Alves with an injured groin) or he's left his opponent much worse for wear than himself and nearly finished them (Koscheck, Hardy, Fitch).

He's put everything into his last 5-6 fights, he just had an unlucky set of cards if you ask me.

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Laughing my ass off if Condit wins...
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I predict that if Silva ends up thrashing GSP in the first round he will start to lay off and revert to his style of letting the other fighter push the pace. He's done this on numerous occasions (Maia, Griffin, etc) and prefers the counter-punching style. I think one of the worst outcomes to happen would be for Dana to bill this as the best two fighters ever, and then it ends like the first UFC on Fox event. If people don't already think Dana is full of shit, that would be the icing on the cake.



GSP has either been injured (He fought Shields with 1 eye for half the fight due to Shields eyepoking him all night long, and he fought Alves with an injured groin) or he's left his opponent much worse for wear than himself and nearly finished them (Koscheck, Hardy, Fitch).


He's put everything into his last 5-6 fights, he just had an unlucky set of cards if you ask me.
I already said GSP is my fav fighter, having said that, I make no excuses for any1 including GSP, whether what you say is true or not, he is a fighter and has not finished anyone in long time. I am ready for the WW division to be shaken up a bit even if that means GSP losing, although I would rather see him get the finish. Thats crazy, a GSP finish would shake up the division IMO.....lol

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This is probably one of the few times I'll agree with LyotoLeigon, and you never really addressed his point.

Silva has fought at 205 and done just fine, GSP has never fought above 170, and is quite a bit smaller than Silva.

If Anderson has nothing left to prove then why does he want to fight GSP so bad? A lot of "p4p" lists actually have GSP at #3, behind Silva and JBJ. JBJ would be the more challenging fight, and it infuriates me to see the supposed #1 fighter duck away from his biggest challenge yet.

I also really don't get what you mean that Silva has nothing left to prove at his age. Silva/Dana are the ones claiming this is the #1/#2 p4p fighter, or the "two best" fighters, yet again, most reputable lists have GSP at #3. Silva can prove he is the absolute best with a win over JBJ. I really don't think he proves that with a win against GSP.

I somewhat agree with you when you say Silva hasn't faced top quality opponents, but he has a top quality opponent available, at a weight class he's tested the waters in, and would rather take on someone lower ranked, and smaller.

But I agree with you 100%. Dana is a promoter, and says a lot of things and then changes his opinion a day later (just go back and look for a video on his stance on women in the UFC).

There is a reason Dana said this one night before the GSP / Condit fight (before GSP/Silva have formally agreed to anything). I'm thinking to probably light a fire in Condit (piss him off a little - make him feel he's being overlooked). There's also a reason why Dana is saying Silva will be watching cageside. You better believe Dana wants Silva to enter the cage and challenge GSP in front of his hometown fans. Dana knows there is a better chance of a GSP/Silva superfight, than a Silva/JBJ superfight, so he's going to do whatever it takes to sell 60,000 tickets at a stadium show. He doesn't care if its the "best" superfight or not - he knows either fight would sell out a stadium.
I'm sticking to the first things I said.... it's supply and demand.

GSP has WAY more fans than JBJ. And while you and I both know that Jonathan vs Anderson is the fight that SHOULD happen, GSP vs Anderson will sell more. And let's be realistic, it's still a SICK fight.

Jons is also tied up with Chael Sonnen. So if you feel strongly that Anderson shouldn't fight GSP, I wonder how you feel about Sonnen vs Bones...
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