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11-18-2012, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AmdM
I was thinking that he looked very small against the bigger fighter in Condit.
I don't think of GSP as a big WW by no means.
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At least I am not the only one, really people are grasping at straws here or drinking Rogans Kool Aid. Condit looked significantly bigger than GSP, he looked just as thick and considerably taller. I was sitting with a table full of guys from work and everyone was commenting about how if he was that much smaller than Condit he was F***ed facing Silva who didn't look small against Bonnar.
Please which of these was were GSP looked huge?
People are mistaken because they think GSP was thicker because he was stockier.
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11-18-2012, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Finnsidious
Beat me to it. Yeah this. I was in a bar and I live in Canada, so I never heard a word Rogan said the entire fight, and I never once thought he looked bigger. He looked the way he always looked to me. Condit was bigger than GSP, never mind Silva.
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Oh it's that thing on MMAForum where everyone is blind and height = size.
Hey guise, Nick Diaz is bigger than Roy Nelson.
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11-18-2012, 08:19 PM
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Oh it's that thing on MMAForum where everyone is blind and height = size.
Hey guise, Nick Diaz is bigger than Roy Nelson.
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I could not possibly disagree more, problem is most people look at how guys are built and ignore the measurements. Condit looked just as thick as GSP but because he is taller he doesn't look as impressive in a picture somehow GSP is bigger.
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11-18-2012, 08:28 PM
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I think everyone is confusing each other with different termonology at this point.
I'd say GSP maybe looked a little more "ripped" than usual, but not very much. His legs looked pretty thick to me, but he's always had huge upper legs. He aparently did a lot of strength & conditioning for this fight, which would make sense after the injury, and explain why his legs looked "thick" to me.
edit: Also - Condit is 4 inches taller, so at approximatley the same weight he's going to appear "lankier" than GSP, making GSP look "stocky" and appear to have thicker muscles. It's just relative to the guy standing next to him. I don't think he looked that much thicker/muscular than normal, if any at all.
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11-18-2012, 08:39 PM
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GSP is a big WW he is really thick muscularly for his frame.
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11-18-2012, 08:42 PM
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GSP has always looked like that to me. Always looks thick and shredded.
I have always seen GSP as the muscular, power house and Anderson as the long, skinny mofo.
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11-18-2012, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by osmium
GSP is a big WW he is really thick muscularly for his frame.
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exactly - he's a pretty short guy for WW. Everyone weights in at 170, and they are all cutting from 190ish and then rehydrating to about that same weight.
If in shape, the shorter guys are going to be thicker. Hence Thiago Alves's nickname "pitbull". He's probably the shortest WW in the UFC, and probably one of the thickest when in shape.
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11-18-2012, 09:45 PM
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GSP is a big WW he is really thick muscularly for his frame.
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This part is true and that is why people make the mistake you made at the beginning of your post. He is big for his frame but his frame is not large for a WW. Guys like Shields and Fitch have larger frames and are just as or close to as thick. Being big for your height does not necessarily make you big.
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11-19-2012, 01:17 AM
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I didn't think GSP looked any bigger last night. At the pre-fight presser he said was ~ 184lbs which is typically where he has been prior to previous cuts.
When talking about "size" against Anderson I don't see weight being the key factor.
It's Silva's frame; long body, long arms and long legs. Very similar to Carlos.
GSP has trained with Rashad Evans and bigger Olympic wrestlers. If GSP can get the takedown I don't see him having a problem keeping Silva down regardless whether Anderson weighs 205 or 220.
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11-19-2012, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Toxic
At least I am not the only one, really people are grasping at straws here or drinking Rogans Kool Aid. Condit looked significantly bigger than GSP, he looked just as thick and considerably taller. I was sitting with a table full of guys from work and everyone was commenting about how if he was that much smaller than Condit he was F***ed facing Silva who didn't look small against Bonnar.
Please which of these was were GSP looked huge?
People are mistaken because they think GSP was thicker because he was stockier.
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I think the intent of the OP was that GSP looked huge compared to his physique in previous fights. Personally I don't think he looked any bigger than normal. Any visual difference is probably just due to more or less of a tan.
From the pictures though I'd definitely say GSP is slightly thicker. Certainly GSP's legs, mid-section, biceps and shoulders are bigger/thicker than Condits. Carlos might have the same chest size as GSP. Condit is a little pasty compared to George and isn't as ripped which can play tricks visually too.
Ultimately both guys weighed in at 170 and were probably within a couple of lbs of each other in the octagon.
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