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Old 11-19-2012, 02:36 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Like I said in another thread Kampmann and Ellenberger are more dangerous fights for GSP because they have more tools. I don't really think it is fair to compare Hendricks to the guys you are comparing him to though he is a better wrestler than all of them but Kos and he trashed Kos standing when he wasn't being eye gouged.

Kampmann's head movement is fine. He is good at slipping punches; it is his footwork that is terrible.

GSP didn't tool Kos the second time around or Shields wrestling and Fitch got tooled wrestling by BJ so I don't think you can act as though he is some amazing wrestler.
Guys like Ellenberger and Hendricks should be able to stop most of his takedowns.
To be fair, GSP didn't try to tool either one at wrestling. He wanted to stand with them. The fact that he was able to stop THEIR wrestling, which is their primary weapon which was something they've used against several other high level fighters means GSP DID control the wrestling.

Fitch is an amazing wrestler. Just because he got taken down by BJ doesn't change that. That was a shock factor, not a weakness. Ellenberger and Hendricks will have nothing for GSP in the wrestling department. Nor will anyone at 170 right now.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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To be fair, GSP didn't try to tool either one at wrestling. He wanted to stand with them. The fact that he was able to stop THEIR wrestling, which is their primary weapon which was something they've used against several other high level fighters means GSP DID control the wrestling.

Fitch is an amazing wrestler. Just because he got taken down by BJ doesn't change that. That was a shock factor, not a weakness. Ellenberger and Hendricks will have nothing for GSP in the wrestling department. Nor will anyone at 170 right now.
I am sure he tried and failed to take Kos down many times in that fight. They don't need to out wrestle GSP they need to stop over half of his shots and commit to their strikes to have a decent chance of winning.
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They don't need to out wrestle GSP they need to stop over half of his shots and commit to their strikes to have a decent chance of winning.
Which no one has managed to do in GSP's career. Might as well say all they need to do is bring a bat.
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I am sure he tried and failed to take Kos down many times in that fight. They don't need to out wrestle GSP they need to stop over half of his shots and commit to their strikes to have a decent chance of winning.
You make it sound so simple. Stopping one or two over the course of a fight is probably possible.

I don't think anyone at this point at 170 will be able to stop half of his shots AND commit to strikes against GSP. There's a reason why 30 seconds into a fight, people aren't pulling the trigger or are on their back.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:08 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The fact that Hendricks throws EVERYTHING into his punches is the reason he wont beat GSP, and the reason GSP will take him down almost at will.

Even in the commentary for his last fight, Goldie mentioned that when he throws, he throws with such power that it puts him off balance. Now, I dont often listen to what Goldie says but he does have a point.
You think GSP will be able to capitalise on that? I do, I think Hendricks will spend the vast majority of the fight either on his back or head hunting.
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Hendricks could definitely pull the upset, but it's not very likely. GSP has a lot of experience against wrestlers with big left hands.

I want to see GSP beat the **** out of Nick Diaz.
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If Hendricks vs GSP isn't going to take place next, I would love to see how Hendricks fares against Diaz. Will Diaz get dropped and finished?
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Hendricks is a much, much more accomplished wrestler then Fitch, Kos or anyone GSP has fought. He is a 2 time national Champion at Oklahoma State and was like 52-0 as a senior wrestling at the highest level for an elite program. Fitch was captain at Purdue but he wasn't a 4 time division 1 All-American and 2 time National Champion like Hendricks. When it comes to wrestling Hendricks accomplishments are on another level then anyone GSP has ever fought. Don't fool yourself into thinking Kos of Fitch had careers that even approached that of Hendricks.
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You can't put that much power behind a shot without setting yourself up for the takedown. Hendricks would be on his back so fast he may as well lay down at the intros to save himself the impact
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Hendricks is a much, much more accomplished wrestler then Fitch, Kos or anyone GSP has fought. He is a 2 time national Champion at Oklahoma State and was like 52-0 as a senior wrestling at the highest level for an elite program. Fitch was captain at Purdue but he wasn't a 4 time division 1 All-American and 2 time National Champion like Hendricks. When it comes to wrestling Hendricks accomplishments are on another level then anyone GSP has ever fought. Don't fool yourself into thinking Kos of Fitch had careers that even approached that of Hendricks.
Did you not watch the Koscheck/Hendricks fight? The Rick Story/Hendricks fight? Accomplishments aren't every thing. He was out wrestled by Rick Story.
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