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Old 11-19-2012, 12:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That is a terrible comparison and you know it, because you are trying to make a point.

GSP and ANderson are both decent sized for their weights. Frankie was always small and didn't really cut weight. he isn't even a LW, he is a FW now. So the comparison is dumb.

GSP would maul Frankie. What does Anderson throwing a straight in GSP's face or a knee to his ribs and dropping him have to do with size? GSP would give up 2-3 inches in reach.
I'll agree with that, and admit that might not have been the best example. But lets take Nate diaz, I don't see that fight being competitive in the slightest, and I won't give Nate any shit for not stepping up and fighting GSP. So I don't understand all the hate people have if GSP chooses not to fight Anderson.

But if he does choose to fight anderson, even though I think he'll get dominated and KO'ed, I'll still root for him as I always do.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'll agree with that, and admit that might not have been the best example. But lets take Nate diaz, I don't see that fight being competitive in the slightest, and I won't give Nate any shit for not stepping up and fight GSP. So I don't understand all the hate people have if GSP chooses not to fight Anderson.

But if he does choose to fighting anderson, even though I think he'll get dominated and KO'ed, I'll still root for him as I always do.
Well Rory Mac tossed Nate around at 170. So sure you are right.

But here is another thing. People really must not think much of GSP. We are talking the #1 and #2 best fighters in the world. How is that comparible to GSP and Nate Diaz?

People are protecting the #2 fighter in the world as if he is some decent fighter. No, he is easily the best 170 in the world. And stylistically he matches up well with Anderson's weakness. Anderson cutting would hinder his strength. People tend to see Anderson as his 205lb thick self. Not, he will be cutting a lot of weight and losing a lot of muscle. It isn't little GSP vs. big chunky Anderson. It would be a more filled out GSP vs. a more slender and drawn out Anderson.

Edit: Also you are crazy if you don't think Nate Diaz would take that fight. He definatly would. Only way he wouldn't is if he thought his brother should get it and didn't want to get in his way. Nate Diaz wouldn't decline any fight.

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Old 11-19-2012, 01:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well Rory Mac tossed Nate around at 170. So sure you are right.

But here is another thing. People really must not think much of GSP. We are talking the #1 and #2 best fighters in the world. How is that comparible to GSP and Nate Diaz?

People are protecting the #2 fighter in the world as if he is some decent fighter. No, he is easily the best 170 in the world. And stylistically he matches up well with Anderson's weakness. Anderson cutting would hinder his strength. People tend to see Anderson as his 205lb thick self. Not, he will be cutting a lot of weight and losing a lot of muscle. It isn't little GSP vs. big chunky Anderson. It would be a more filled out GSP vs. a more slender and drawn out Anderson.

Edit: Also you are crazy if you don't think Nate Diaz would take that fight. He definatly would. Only way he wouldn't is if he thought his brother should get it and didn't want to get in his way. Nate Diaz wouldn't decline any fight.
There aren't exactly any fighters in the LW division that are top 5 pound for pound, so Nate was the closest example I could come up with. And the reason I used Nate, was to show how ridiculous it is for people to give a fighter shit for not going up to fight someone who's in another weight class.


Now, although GSP is one of my favorite fighters, and one of the top 3 fighters pound for pound on this planet, we are talking about Anderson Silva. I'm not even a big fan of Anderson's but I can't deny his greatness inside the octagon. Even though he cuts to lets say 180 pound catch weight, he'll still have a massive strength advantage in my opinion. Obviously strength isn't everything but when you are talking about two of the pound for pound best, every advantage makes a huge difference.

The bottom line is that I am indifferent to this fight. But if it happens, i know i'll get pumped, but I won't lose any sleep if it doesn't happen either.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:35 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Not sure what you are talking about.

Did you miss the times Anderson has said he would be open to that Jones fight down the line? Did you miss where he addressed the media in Canada Saturday and said he wants GSP then Bones? Did you just miss all of that?

Did miss the fact that Bones and Sonnen are doing TUF and are in fact scheduled to fight all the way in April?

Time frames? I bring up time frames because people like you act like if ANderson isn't going to fight Bones right now...then he never will. Why do you think that?

Anderson was looking for the GSP fight now. Because if he goes up to fight Bones he isn't coming back down. And like I said...Bones is a retirement fight...there would be nothing else to do after that.

Not sure what your post even means.

Jon Jones and Anderson both said they didn't want that fight. Since then they both opened up and said it could happen at some point. Jones is not sitting there calling Anderson out. So how is Anderson not fighting Jones? Jones is busy fighting Vitor and Chael.

That is the point. You can't say Anderson isn't fighting Bones. Bones isn't fighting him. The 2 situations aren't that comparable.
Did YOU miss the times when Anderson openly said he wasn't interested in the jones fight?

Yes, Joes and Sonnen are doing TUF, but that is irrelevant as I don't think Silva will ever fight Jones, never mind next year.

One of the only downside to being a mod is that to mod the board effectively you can't put users on ignore. You my friend do nothing but throw your opinions around on this board and then jump all over people when they don't agree with your points. Has there ever been a thread you've contributed to that didn't end up in an argument?
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Some people just have their hate goggles on 24/7. GSP is the WW champ, fighting people at WW and people are bitching about him not fighting at MW. It's not so much people are scared about GSP losing as it is a waste of a fight for both fighters, with the most compelling evidence being that Chael Sonnen not being able to do anything to Anderson when he was healthy. If a bigger stronger better wrestler couldn't beat Anderson why should GSP waste 6 months training to get his ass kicked in the first round? It's just a stupid fight, GSP has little to no chance. Anderson is so far superior to GSP in striking and with his size advantage GSP has no chance.

People clamoring for this fight are mostly GSP haters that want to see him get his ass kicked, sorry, I'm a fight fan and I like watching good fights not one sided beatdowns that should never have been made.

Let Anderson fight an inferior striker that's slightly bigger than him, that's a competitive interesting fight, I doubt GSP would even sign to fight Anderson anyways. That'd be like Jones fighting JDS right now, it wouldn't even be competitive.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:13 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Did YOU miss the times when Anderson openly said he wasn't interested in the jones fight?

Yes, Joes and Sonnen are doing TUF, but that is irrelevant as I don't think Silva will ever fight Jones, never mind next year.

One of the only downside to being a mod is that to mod the board effectively you can't put users on ignore. You my friend do nothing but throw your opinions around on this board and then jump all over people when they don't agree with your points. Has there ever been a thread you've contributed to that didn't end up in an argument?
No, I didn't miss it. But unlike you, I have a concept of time. ANderson has said he would be open to fighting Bones down the road more recently than he said he wouldn't. He is about big money fights at this stage. He figured he could to a GSP fight and a Bones fight.


Sorry I get so much under your skin. I find it funny that you say all I do is throw opinions around...yet just before that you said you don't think Anderson will ever fight Bones...which is strictly opinion. And Anderson has actually as far back as Saturday said he wanted to do the Bones fight.

And to add one more time. Bones isn't sitting there asking to fight Anderson. HE DOESN'T WANT THAT FIGHT AND HAS SAID SO. He isn't asking Anderson to meet him at 195. Where as Anderson is actually asking for GSP and asking him to meet him.

So to me those 2 things are very different.

I don't jump on anyone who disagrees. I simply debate my point. And you have lost badly.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:18 PM   #39 (permalink)
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No, I didn't miss it. But unlike you, I have a concept of time. ANderson has said he would be open to fighting Bones down the road more recently than he said he wouldn't. He is about big money fights at this stage. He figured he could to a GSP fight and a Bones fight.


Sorry I get so much under your skin. I find it funny that you say all I do is throw opinions around...yet just before that you said you don't think Anderson will ever fight Bones...which is strictly opinion. And Anderson has actually as far back as Saturday said he wanted to do the Bones fight.

And to add one more time. Bones isn't sitting there asking to fight Anderson. HE DOESN'T WANT THAT FIGHT AND HAS SAID SO. He isn't asking Anderson to meet him at 195. Where as Anderson is actually asking for GSP and asking him to meet him.

So to me those 2 things are very different.

I don't jump on anyone who disagrees. I simply debate my point. And you have lost badly.
There is a vast difference between the way I present my opinions, to the way you aggressively force your opinions on people.

The fact that you see it as you winning and me losing badly just further proves my point.

Now, if you wish to discuss this further you know where the PM button is.

Back on topic.
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There is a vast difference between the way I present my opinions, to the way you aggressively force your opinions on people.

The fact that you see it as you winning and me losing badly just further proves my point.

Now, if you wish to discuss this further you know where the PM button is.

Back on topic.
You are a mod. Of course how we post will be different.

I'm here to give an opinion and the present facts/reasons to back them up.

I didn't mean to jump down your throat. But it just urks me when people act like Anderson won't fight Bones like GSP won't fight Anderson. You can't say that because Bones isn't offering a catchweight. I don't like when people make that claim then totally leave out the part where Bones doesn't want that fight either.

Everyone can have their own opinion. But lets not leave out key facts for the sake of trying to make a point. Anderson isn't ducking Bones anymore than Bones is ducking Anderson.
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