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Good analysis xP. Name is too long to spell out...haha. There's pros and cons, but ultimately a cathweight is fair to decide who is truly the ABSOLUTE #1 P4P although there is already a huge consensus who that is.

Again this fight is very big for the sport of MMA, but GSP doesn't want it. His camp doesn't want it not unless it's at 170 I suppose now... Anderson may renegoiate or simply call their bluff and say fawk it I'll go down to 170.

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GSP is such a wuss, it would make my day if Anderson trials a cut to 170 and can make it, then goes and destroys Georges.

That's almost like Anderson saying "Bones has to come to 185".







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I'm not that interested in this fight anymore, since it is quite clear GSP doesn't want this fight at all.
That's exactly the reason why I want this fight. And I want it bad.




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Good analysis xP. Name is too long to spell out...haha. There's pros and cons, but ultimately a cathweight is fair to decide who is truly the ABSOLUTE #1 P4P although there is already a huge consensus who that is.

Again this fight is very big for the sport of MMA, but GSP doesn't want it. His camp doesn't want it not unless it's at 170 I suppose now... Anderson may renegoiate or simply call their bluff and say fawk it I'll go down to 170.

Entire GSP team = *Gasp...gulps!*

Oh fawk...*French expletives! _________________ fill in the blank.*

The one thing that i just can't figure out is this.

GSP is a guy that strives to do what is best for his career. He tries to win taking the least amount of damage (though ending it early would also have that effect, there is just more risk). He does all the necessary diet and training regimens. He cuts weight properly. He seeks out the best coaches. He follows his gameplan to a tee. He keeps his personal life in check though to not lose any sponsors. Does all the PR the UFC requires. He's soft spoken and respectful (bar diaz). And ultimately, he wins all of his fights by domination.

What most of that comes down to is his mental toughness. There is certainly nothing at all wrong with any of it, in fact, it's pretty much perfect to be a sports icon. Buttttttt, this is my perspective. Each one of GSP's fights eats at his mental toughness. Serra made him realize he could be knocked out, Hughes made him realize he could be submitted, hardy made him realize he still doesn't have his submission game perfected, koscheck made him realize he can be taken down, shields made him realize he could end up getting poked in the eye, alves made him realize he could hurt himself, and (i believe) Condit made him realize sometimes you can't break a fighters will.

All of that sounds absolutely crazy doesn't it? You would think with his performances he would look at it as "I overcame all of these things" but it just seems like he's mentality isn't like that. I also think he's obsessed with perfection. And of all of those things, while just little things to us, are HUGE things to him.


And that's why, though fighting anderson and beating him is no doubt THE BEST thing for his career, he doesn't want to have to change what he's doing right now at 170. He doesn't want to risk having a bad cut, there being a freak accident, him getting knocked out, him getting submitted, anderson not giving up, or him not being able to capitalize on a submission and most importantly having to start the whole perfection process over if he did end up losing because of any of that.

GSP is a worrier and is VERY human in regard to what's possible.

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The one thing that i just can't figure out is this.

GSP is a guy that strives to do what is best for his career. He tries to win taking the least amount of damage (though ending it early would also have that effect, there is just more risk). He does all the necessary diet and training regimens. He cuts weight properly. He seeks out the best coaches. He follows his gameplan to a tee. He keeps his personal life in check though to not lose any sponsors. Does all the PR the UFC requires. He's soft spoken and respectful (bar diaz). And ultimately, he wins all of his fights by domination.

What most of that comes down to is his mental toughness. There is certainly nothing at all wrong with any of it, in fact, it's pretty much perfect to be a sports icon. Buttttttt, this is my perspective. Each one of GSP's fights eats at his mental toughness. Serra made him realize he could be knocked out, Hughes made him realize he could be submitted, hardy made him realize he still doesn't have his submission game perfected, koscheck made him realize he can be taken down, shields made him realize he could end up getting poked in the eye, alves made him realize he could hurt himself, and (i believe) Condit made him realize sometimes you can't break a fighters will.

All of that sounds absolutely crazy doesn't it? You would think with his performances he would look at it as "I overcame all of these things" but it just seems like he's mentality isn't like that. I also think he's obsessed with perfection. And of all of those things, while just little things to us, are HUGE things to him..
You must be exhausted from jumping to all of those conclusions.
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to all the people having a go at GSP.... i dont get the hate, this might surprise everyone, but GSP is thinking of his own WW career over your want for this fight... he has said a long time ago, once he stepped up, he wouldnt be going back down, so why hate on him for wanting the fight at 170??

if its not possible, then its not possible.... they havent said 170 as a concrete dead amount, theyve said ''or as close to that as possible''

whats wrong with that?? he doesnt want to add weight, then drop weight and in turn jepordise his status as WW champion

hes an intelligent fighter and he would want to be at his best to face silva, if that means him fighting in or around 170, then thats just how it has to be, or not at all

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GSP is such a wuss, it would make my day if Anderson trials a cut to 170 and can make it, then goes and destroys Georges.

That's almost like Anderson saying "Bones has to come to 185".
If you read the article, you can see that it was Zahabi and not GSP saying this. So calling him a wuss is overreacting.

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GSP is such a lil girl... Just come out and say yeah don't want the fight already.. quit making excuses... (And don't give me this crap it's his camp, what they never talk)

Their is a reason Silva, Penn, and Jon Jones will be remembered as greater fighters then GSP.. They took risks and challenged themselves... And fought in more then 1 weigh class
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GSP is such a wuss, it would make my day if Anderson trials a cut to 170 and can make it, then goes and destroys Georges.

That's almost like Anderson saying "Bones has to come to 185".
Not really.

One guy wants the fight, the other doesn't. If Anderson wants it that bad, cut to 170 or move on.

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The one thing that i just can't figure out is this.

GSP is a guy that strives to do what is best for his career. He tries to win taking the least amount of damage (though ending it early would also have that effect, there is just more risk). He does all the necessary diet and training regimens. He cuts weight properly. He seeks out the best coaches. He follows his gameplan to a tee. He keeps his personal life in check though to not lose any sponsors. Does all the PR the UFC requires. He's soft spoken and respectful (bar diaz). And ultimately, he wins all of his fights by domination.

GSP is a worrier and is VERY human in regard to what's possible.
He is a perfectionist. To reiterate what others' have said, he's too prideful to say no outright. He knows what's at stake and I'd like to bring up my analogy.

Anybody who's ever read the Trojan War. It's like Achilles calling out Hector. Hector doesn't have to, but to defend his honour and Troy he goes out and battles Achilles. Fights valiantly, but he's outmatched in every way possible.

If you were GSP would you fight Anderson. The more I realize it, it's like asking each of the lower weight class champs to fight the above weight class.

Demetrious Johnson vs DC whom he already lost to.
DC vs Aldo. Good luck there!
Aldo vs Bendo. Probably the closest match up out there.
Bendo vs GSP. GSP would outmuscle em big time.

LHW vs JDS. I got money on JDS.

So there's the big triangle.

GSP vs Anderson Silva vs LHW title holder

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