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Old 11-20-2012, 09:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Anderson has faught at 175 before. Mind you this was a long time ago when he didn't have as much size. He was also a lot younger. I really don't see Anderson and his camp agreeing to 170 or 178. That's around 40lbs to cut, maybe more.

The ball is in Anderson's court here. I really don't see this happening.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
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GSP just has OCD, he's a perfectionist who needs every little thing to be just right otherwise it isn't right in his mind. Everything he does, he does it "the right way". That's why he doesn't want to jump up and down in weight, but he would be willing to go up to MW if it was done "the right way" by packing on muscle and permanently changing weight classes.
He is a very safe fighter and person, and quite simply it would be out of character for him to jump up in weight to fight Anderson. I do believe that he would 100% fight him at 170, though, but I dont think Silva is capable of making that cut.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So that basically means they don't want Anderson.

Hey Anderson, we know you are 37 going on 38. We like to act like you are too big for GSP and some massive MW.

But we want you to drop to 170. Cool with you?

hahahahaha. ironic.

According to GSP it takes him like a year to put on 5 or 10 good lbs. But he wants Anderson to go anorexic in a few months. The irony is great. Haha

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Man, Anderson isnt making 170lbs and nor should he.

A fight at a catchweight would be fairer but I think Anderson is always going to have the size advantage.

Even at a 178lbs catchweight, on fight night Anderson will probably be weighing in at 200+ whilst GSP is gonna be probably 190ish.

Mark my words, this fight aint happening at any weight.
It is a superfight. Between 2 guys separated by 1 weight class. Of course someone will have a size "advantage". It isn't like Anderson is Brock Lesnar. And going to use it fully. He is an elusive striker going down to take on a faster opponent.

If they did 178 it is reasonable to expect Anderson to only be around 200 the next day. And it is reasonable to assume GSP will be at least 190. He says he is 190-193 when he drops all the way to 170. S

So what are we talking here? 10 to 15 lbs? 2 or 3 inches of reach? Guys at the same weight class have disadvantages equal to to that routinely. Jon Jones out-weighs his opponents by 15-20 lbs and enjoys a foot reach over many of them.

Someone in a superfight is going to have to be the smaller man. Makes sense that it is the 6 year younger, wrestler.

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So what even if he has a small size advantage, whatever, more props to GSP if he wins it and no shame if he loses, he was at a size disadvantage against the #1 p4p and at the very least stepped up, and at the most dethroned him.

I mean this was a sport without weight classes and guys like BJ Penn challenging 3 weight classes above even after weight classes. Even now, it's not like the divisions are homogenous in terms of weight, every division has guys that are relatively "bigger" and cut far more weight than others in the division.

This superfight should be about the two best technicians in MMA duking it out to see whose technique is truly the best. Each guy has the technique that has been shown to be the other's kryptonite, GSP with his relentless wrestling, transitions and GnP, and Silva with his one shot accuracy. 8 lbs here or there won't be the deciding factor, the styles themselves will be.
Agree with all of this. This is how I feel. This fight isn't about whos bigger. It is about #1 vs. #2.

If people are that hung up over 10 lbs...when the guy doesn't even use his weight. Then they should just add 4 more weights. So guys like Jones don't tower over his regular opponents. If we are all this worried over a few lbs then just make a bunch more weights.

I miss the old days.

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Old 11-20-2012, 11:01 AM   #24 (permalink)
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According to GSP it takes him like a year to put on 5 or 10 good lbs. But he wants Anderson to go anorexic in a few months. The irony is great. Haha
GSP doesn't "want" Silva to do anything. All he is saying is that if Silva wants to fight a WW so bad, then he can drop weight and become one. I also think the fight would offer the fairest performance from catchweight. But at the end of the day, GSP is the best WW in the world. If he wants to keep doing what he does, good for him. After all, no matter what he chooses, GSP haters are gonna find something wrong with it.
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GSP doesn't "want" Silva to do anything. All he is saying is that if Silva wants to fight a WW so bad, then he can drop weight and become one. I also think the fight would offer the fairest performance from catchweight. But at the end of the day, GSP is the best WW in the world. If he wants to keep doing what he does, good for him. After all, no matter what he chooses, GSP haters are gonna find something wrong with it.
Of course he doesn't "want" him to do anything. He doesn't WANT the fight.

No Silva wants to fight the supposed #2 P4P fighter who is only 1 weight class away from him.

GSP said all along that if they fight happened it would be at a catchweight. Then all of a sudden he says or his camp says it should be at 170.

GSP knows ANderson would kill himself to get to 170. But he doesn't care if it is realistic. He doesn't care about the fans. He is just making stipulations that he knows would be hard for Anderson to meet.

"hater" is such a cheesy word. Because I disagree with GSP and his outlook on the sport of MMA then that means I am a "hater". Ok.

Nick Diaz should steal all this money away from GSP. He would be willing to fight at 185. And he doesn't have the wrestling to hide behind either. But then again GSP and Diaz are cut froma different cloth.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:37 AM   #26 (permalink)
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We don't know what GSP wants, and until he says something everyone just assumes. Yes, he said before he'd take catchweight. Priorities change. Silva also said he wouldn't fight Sonnen a second time. Things change. GSP could wake up tomorrow and say Fk it, i'm going for it. point is, we dont't know. I have serious doubts he's "afraid". Considering what these guys do for a living, and the type of personality required to succeed, i doubt any top tier fighter in any weight class fears anyone. and I didn't specify anyone with my "hater" remark. But GSP puts on a fight of the night performance against a top guy, and now top control is overrated. he peppers the face off Koschek, and he can't finish. It seems that no matter what he does, someone has something negative to say about it. But then again, if we all had the same opinions, the world would be a pretty boring place.
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I've been thinking about this all night. We've all waited for this and now it's here at our finger tips.

A fight at 178/180 is where it should be so no titles are on the line and it's a tester to see how GSP can hold himself against not only a MW, but the greatest fighter this planet has ever seen.

His trainer stating that it should be at 170 is definitely a weak move, albeit a tactical move. Anderson will lose power, strength, but if this was the early 2000 Anderson it would be pretty evenly matched. The best comparison would be the Carlos Newton fight (ex-UFC WW champ) and look how that ended up.

At this point Anderson can't do it without risking his health. Off season he's 220, training season he's at 202. Cutting 32lbs is gonna have detrimental effect on his conditioning. His skill sets will still be there, but if Anderson does oblige and wins...that will DESTROY GSP's legacy.

So yah meet in the middle. Put on the exhibition fight everyone in the world wants to see.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:48 AM   #28 (permalink)
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We don't know what GSP wants, and until he says something everyone just assumes. Yes, he said before he'd take catchweight. Priorities change. Silva also said he wouldn't fight Sonnen a second time. Things change. GSP could wake up tomorrow and say Fk it, i'm going for it. point is, we dont't know. I have serious doubts he's "afraid". Considering what these guys do for a living, and the type of personality required to succeed, i doubt any top tier fighter in any weight class fears anyone. and I didn't specify anyone with my "hater" remark. But GSP puts on a fight of the night performance against a top guy, and now top control is overrated. he peppers the face off Koschek, and he can't finish. It seems that no matter what he does, someone has something negative to say about it. But then again, if we all had the same opinions, the world would be a pretty boring place.
Perhaps GSP is just building the fight. I agree we jump to conclusions.

But a lot of people here seem to say "GSP obviously doesn't want the fight". His big fans even say this.

I hope he isn't pressured into it. I was just hoping he would look for the ultimate test and a chance to cement his legacy as the best guy ever to be in that cage. There aren't always fights that come along that can grow your legacy like that. But GSP has always been a safe guy.

Anderson has far more to lose here than GSP does. At least in my opinion.

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GSP is such a lil girl... Just come out and say yeah don't want the fight already.. quit making excuses... (And don't give me this crap it's his camp, what they never talk)

Their is a reason Silva, Penn, and Jon Jones will be remembered as greater fighters then GSP.. They took risks and challenged themselves... And fought in more then 1 weigh class
Such nonsense. BJ Penn will be remembered as a fighter who half assed his career. And Jon Jones has only ever fought at LHW, where he squares off against substantially smaller fighters with a fraction of his reach. Nice try, sport.

Calling the UFC WW champion a 'wuss' and a 'little girl' as you sit comfortably behind your computer screens. I sure wish I was as tough as some of you.
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GSP wasn't complaining when BJ Penn was moving up to 170 to fight him. Even though GSP was much bigger than he was. This just goes to show me that GSP is not a warrior. I hate his fighting style because he is only cautious and can not finish anybody anymore. Hell even Chael has finished somebody recently.
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