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post #61 of 82 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 04:41 PM
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The only thing Anderson needs to do at 170 is eat a sandwich
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post #62 of 82 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 04:48 PM
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I'm going through my head a list of fighters that have made successful weight cuts in the UFC.

Bisping, Sanchez, Florian, BJ, Sherk, Kampmann, Maia.

Outside of Sherk those guys were pudgy at their higher weight. I wouldn't call Anderson pudgy at 185. And none of those guys fought a GSP type fighter in their first fight at the lower weight.
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Mayweather Pacquiao anyone? lolol

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if AS can pull off the move i will be impressed, that's a hard cut at his age
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Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion View Post

One guy wants the fight, the other doesn't. If Anderson wants it that bad, cut to 170 or move on.
It really is that simple.

And the "but he fought BJ Penn" arguments don't hold any water at all - it wasn't GSP chasing BJ for the fights. It was BJ wanting a shot at the title.
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....and yet he is still called the UFC 170 champ?
no, vacate the belt... holy crap that was hard
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post #67 of 82 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 06:06 PM
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Anderson needs to come down to 170, I don't want to see a small great fighter get beat by a larger less great fighter. 170 or nothing!!
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If Silva did make 170 he would be a shell of himself....
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post #69 of 82 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rabakill View Post
no, vacate the belt... holy crap that was hard
That makes no sense what so ever.

So you suggest anderson and gsp both weigh 170 but no 170 belt on the line. Then you suggest if gsp loses he just gives it up? Then why in the world wouldnt it just be for the belt anyway?

That makes zero sense.
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The one thing that i just can't figure out is this.

GSP is a guy that strives to do what is best for his career. He tries to win taking the least amount of damage (though ending it early would also have that effect, there is just more risk). He does all the necessary diet and training regimens. He cuts weight properly. He seeks out the best coaches. He follows his gameplan to a tee. He keeps his personal life in check though to not lose any sponsors. Does all the PR the UFC requires. He's soft spoken and respectful (bar diaz). And ultimately, he wins all of his fights by domination.

What most of that comes down to is his mental toughness. There is certainly nothing at all wrong with any of it, in fact, it's pretty much perfect to be a sports icon. Buttttttt, this is my perspective. Each one of GSP's fights eats at his mental toughness. Serra made him realize he could be knocked out, Hughes made him realize he could be submitted, hardy made him realize he still doesn't have his submission game perfected, koscheck made him realize he can be taken down, shields made him realize he could end up getting poked in the eye, alves made him realize he could hurt himself, and (i believe) Condit made him realize sometimes you can't break a fighters will.

All of that sounds absolutely crazy doesn't it? You would think with his performances he would look at it as "I overcame all of these things" but it just seems like he's mentality isn't like that. I also think he's obsessed with perfection. And of all of those things, while just little things to us, are HUGE things to him.

And that's why, though fighting anderson and beating him is no doubt THE BEST thing for his career, he doesn't want to have to change what he's doing right now at 170. He doesn't want to risk having a bad cut, there being a freak accident, him getting knocked out, him getting submitted, anderson not giving up, or him not being able to capitalize on a submission and most importantly having to start the whole perfection process over if he did end up losing because of any of that.

GSP is a worrier and is VERY human in regard to what's possible.
You're right but if GSP DOES fight Silva, he's gonna realize all those things again (can't break some fighters, some fighters can take you down, etc) all in one fight because Silva would pick him apart horribly and GSP is gonna have a hell of a time putting Silva on his back. GSP is a better wrestler than Sonnen but is not even close to being his size in any way (even if he walks around at 190).
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