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Old 11-21-2012, 08:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Of course he is confident in gsps wrestling. He was the 205er that routinely was taken fown by georges in practice. Haha.

Hey at least someone is confident in gsp. Hes probably more confident than gsp is.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:34 AM   #22 (permalink)
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...Silva & GSP is gonna be one wicked chess match. I see GSP putting Silva on his back with ease and multiple times. The question is how and can Georges finish Anderson from the top position? Silva won't get submitted. GSP's ground n' pound is some of the best out there but Anderson's ground defense is stellar. Both have proven, great chins. I doubt very much that someone will get finished in this fight. St. Pierre is so intelligent with incredible timing/level changing and Anderson has the best timing. I think this fight will be very, very, close. GSP could outpoint Anderson scoring takedown after takedown and landing some shots. Fight Silva like Sonnen did. GSP is far more all-around skilled than Sonnen is. I love both fighters so whoever wins, I'm happy with it. This certainly is a pick em' fight with tons of unpredictability...
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The way I view this matchup is similar to how I viewed the Sonnen fight. But Sonnen and GSP have different advantages.

GSP is not going to finish Silva, same way Sonnen was never going to finish him. So he needs 5 rounds of wrestling and top control.

Now obviously GSP has much more BJJ than Sonnen, so a late triangle is probably out of the question. But Sonnen has a better chin. He was able to walk in chin down and get TDs. I don't think GSP can or will even attempt that.

Also, we saw Anderson's great tie up ability. I think he will be able to tie up GSP from bottom pretty well and get it standing. GSP has 5 rounds to not get KO'd.

I don't know what peoples opinion are. But GSP used to be the best MMA wrestler. Then Chael did well and everyone said he was. Now people are back to GSP. Either way they are both some of the best wrestlers in MMA. But Chael was a 205er. Chael's TDs were relentless.

What happens if the 2nd round of the last Sonnen fight happens? Anderson stuffed Chael, so why can't he stuff GSP? People like to cheer and gloat about the first round. But Anderson GAVE him that TD. Anderson just got wrestled in the fight before...we really think Anderson was going to come out with a Wandy Silva looping punch while Chael drops levels? He gave him that TD in the first round.

GSP will bring more sub D. But less of a chin and less walking forward. Which was key in any of Chael's success vs. Silva.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Any one who believed Chael was ever the better MMA wrestler was out of their god damn minds. We're talking about a guy here who got tossed onto his head easily by Damian Maia. A guy who was barely able to out wrestle Michael Bisping (and yes, Mike has strong TDD and defensive wrestling, but he isn't outstanding in the area).

GSP's timing for the take down is god like. @Soakked, I agree with all of the points in your earlier post except from the timing conclusion. Silvas striking timing and GSP'S take down timing are equally impressive. The only reason as to why Silvas timing seems to be more impressive is because his strikes finish fights in an instant, where as GSP is just taking you down, but that doesn't make the actual timing any less impressive. The take down he scored on Condit in round 2 when he threw the leg kick was unreal.

There is no way that Sonnen would out wrestle the likes of Koscheck and Fitch the way GSP did, he wouldn't even come close. How ever I agree that because GSP's take downs are all about the timing of his opponents strikes and moves, rather than Chaels bull rushing approach, he's going to find it very difficult to time Silvas strikes and movement.

This is such an interesting stylistic match up and I really do think it does come down to one thing - timing. GSP's godlike timing in his take downs versus Andersons wizard like timing with his strikes. If Anderson connects, it's over, but if GSP scores the take down in a round, I don't see Andy getting back up to his feet until the next round.

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Any one who believed Chael was ever the better MMA wrestler was out of their god damn minds. We're talking about a guy here who got tossed onto his head easily by Damian Maia.
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This was a really lame post man.....The best wrestler in MMA would not get rag dolled to the floor by Damian Maia. Can you picture GSP being thrown to the ground by Damian Maia like that?



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Old 11-21-2012, 10:18 AM   #27 (permalink)
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You are right Maia wouldn't toss GSP around like that. But you have to ask why he was able to do that when Chael is a real good wrestler none the less?

My reason is because Chael isn't going for a TD or going forward. He was afraid to to death to be on the ground. So weakly clinched. He probably thought Maia was going to pull guard. That TD is more or less a matter of Chael not being ready for it and sucking so bad on the ground.

GSP would never get tossed like that because in a clinch he would be dropping down for a TD. He isn't as afraid. Who knows though, in that same scenario perahps GSP would get tossed. He hasn't fought a guy like Maia was back then...a guy looking for subs and one of the best at doing it from his back and all areas. BJ was a top guy. Shields was a top guy and more a position wrestler/BJJ. Condit was never going to pull guard or do anything too nuts. When you are in the clinch as a wrestler and are hesitant to use your bread and butter for fear of the ground...you tend to get owned.

1 time getting taken down like that vs. an odd fighter like Maia shouldn't automatically mean he isn't an elite wrestler.
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"Anderson's a great fighter, but one thing with Anderson is that he has such a problem with defending the takedown. And then on the ground even sometimes he allows people to advance position way too much."


No. What Silva does way too much of is win and win comfortably. The rest are pointless statistics from lesser fighters trying desperately to justify themselves as top tier.

It's like saying Silva has a problem with boxing defence because he stands there and let opponents punch him in the face. He gets taken down easy because he's confident they cant do anything to him there... and by all evidence... they cant.
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No. What Silva does way too much of is win and win comfortably. The rest are pointless statistics from lesser fighters trying desperately to justify themselves as top tier.

It's like saying Silva has a problem with boxing defence because he stands there and let opponents punch him in the face. He gets taken down easy because he's confident they cant do anything to him there... and by all evidence... they cant.
What exactly is GSP going to do when he advanaces position anyway? GnP him out? No. Sub him? No. I mean that would actually be a good gameplan for SIlva if he does get taken down. Let GSP advanace and maybe even go for a sub and it gives Silva room to get up. Instead of sitting in guard all fight. I think Anderson will just engolf GSP with his elite guard defense.

Anderson would play around with GSP because he would even be less worried about a devistating shot or sub than more guys.
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GSP is Rashads former training partner, and they probably still roll around sometimes. It's easy to go with your former trainer partner when he's a champion.

The thing with GSP, and I think Matt Hughes put it best, is that he's not that great of a pure wrestler, but what makes him so good is that he's able to set up his take-downs with good combinations. Whereas a pure wrestler like Chael Sonnen can come in and take someone down right off the bat. If GSP can't set up combinations against Anderson Silva, it's going to be more difficult to get a take-down against Silva than it was for Chael. While I still think he will be able to take Anderson down, he's got to go 5 rounds without being put out cold against the best finisher in the business...
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