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post #41 of 67 (permalink) Old 11-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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There is quite a big gap from the creme de la creme (gsp, jon jones) and the rest of the wrestlers, even the guys in the top five. Chael Sonnen is top five, but I feel that the likes of GSP and Jon Jones are on a a completely different level.

For example look at Anderson Silva and the rest of the top five MW's. Those guys might be top five, but Anderson is still way, way ahead of them in terms of skill.
I agree he probably isn't the best. Which makes the Jon Jones/Sonnen fight that much more pathetic when Sonnen holds no advantage and is coming off a loss.

I was going to bring up Chael dropping Anderson. And how the best striker would never get dropped by the likes of Sonnen. But the numbers don't lie much and Sonnen vs. Bisping showed that his TDs could definatly be defended.

But more importantly than who the best is. How would you compare GSP's wrestling vs. Anderson. To Sonnen's wrestling vs Anderson. Sonnen is the stronger of the 2 wrestlers. He is more relentless. Like you said GSP uses timing and quickness. I think Sonnen's frame and wrestling will prove harder for Silva to handle than GSP's style of wrestling.

Fear of the strike is also something that goes into this. Many fighters have less wrestling when they fear the strike. And many strikers have less effective striking when they fear the TD. I don't think Anderson fears being on his back. I feel GSP fears being caught on the feet though.
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Well depends if he wants to try and sub him or if he wants to get back up. I too think he can tie GSP up well from guard and that can be a way he can get it standing anyway. I think he can sub GSP, it will be the strongest wrist control GSP has ever dealt with. He didn't go down to the ground with Shields. It would definatly be the best guard he has been in, especially with ANderson's length.

Sure, he should definatly try to avoid the TD that should be plan A. But like I said, if it comes down to it where he isn't subbing GSP and GSP is just in guard...then I would let GSP get confident by giving up position in order to look for a counter.

ANderson could attack this fight in many ways and has many aspects that he can exploit or challenge. GSP basically has 1 or 2 ways. Wrestling/keeping him there. Or if Anderson gasses from the weight cut he could cruise the 2nd half of the fight.
Tried repping, gotta spread. Im not too sure Silva would sub GSP. I think it would be a lot more difficult for him to sub GSP rather than KO him. I'm not saying its impossible, GSP has some pretty decent sub-defence.

In reference to to your second and third paragraph. I couldn't agree more. Anderson could knock him out from literally anywhere standing, he also is very active off his back. Anderson gassing? Its got to be a viable option. How often do we see The Spider go 5 rounds? Or even 3? Add a weight cut to that it and it becomes even more possible!




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I for one don't think GSP stands a chance in hell against Anderson. I was cheering for GSP as loud as anyone on Saturday but after the beating Anderson gave Chael I just don't see GSP doing anything at all to Anderson. He's not going to hurt Anderson standing and he's not going to hurt him on the ground. It's not even competitive in my mind, it's a one sided ass beating and I'd rather watch the much more competitive jones vs. silva fight.
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Anderson will be the favorite in this fight, but Im not quite sure he's such a massive favorite as some people think is is.
65/35 Silva?. Depends on what weight they fight at. At 170lbs Id pick GSP to win.

Anderson best chance really is to time his strike when GSP shoots or he will be on his back, just like GSP only has one chance to win. Avoid the strikes and take him down grind it out. GSP has the best top control in the entire sport so Silva will most likely not get back up until the next round. I just dont see GSP getting caught in anything from the top even with Anderson's long limbs.

Or I might be dead wrong, we'll most likely find out in 2013!

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I think GSP will get him down just fine, then once they are there he'll done no damage whatsoever.
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This was a really lame post man.....The best wrestler in MMA would not get rag dolled to the floor by Damian Maia. Can you picture GSP being thrown to the ground by Damian Maia like that?



Either back your post up with a valid point, or don't post any thing at all.
It's Mister Demian Maia for you, and you chose the worst example of all for this was one of the best moments in UFC history. A masterpiece move precisely executed by a highly condecorated grappler that only you seems to devalue. It was so much of an art display Joe Rogan was just euphoric asking to see the replay of the trip over the submission itself. However for you, all this happened because Sonnen is not a top wrestler. Lame was you example.


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It's Mister Demian Maia for you, and you chose the worst example of all for this was one of the best moments in UFC history. A masterpiece move precisely executed by a highly condecorated grappler that only you seems to devalue. It was so much of an art display Joe Rogan was just euphoric asking to see the replay of the trip over the submission itself. However for you, all this happened because Sonnen is not a top wrestler. Lame was you example.



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Mister Damian Maia, what on earth are you blabbering on about. I wasn't trying to devalue his take down, it was a great take down, and I also didn't ever say that Chael Sonnen wasn't a top wrestler, work on your reading comprehension. I said he isn't the best wrestler in this sport, which quite clearly, he isn't.

Moron. Just looking for an argument for no reason what so ever.
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Off on a tangent here, but I always thought Rashad - Anderson would be a good matchup at 185.

I'd pick Silva to win, but if he wants to **** around like he does with most of his opponents Rashad is one guy who could make him pay. At least he wouldn't have Greg Jackson giving him a terrible gameplan like the Machida fight.
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GSP has the wrestling, sub defense, and cardio to win the fight.
You maybe right. But he's never been on top of anyone in a fight who has a submission game like Anderson.

I say the exact same thing to people picking Fitch over Maia. Fitch could very well win the fight. But using his grinding top game victories over BJ, Diego and Erick Silva counts little when talking about Maia.
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I also didn't ever say that Chael Sonnen wasn't a top wrestler, work on your reading comprehension.
So Sonnen is a top wrestler for you, but not the best, because only the best woudn't be tossed by Demian or struggle against Bisping, right? Only the best, not Sonnen because he is top, but not the best... See? I am working on my reading comprehension and your text is quite a material for that matter.

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Moron. Just looking for an argument for no reason what so ever.
You called me a prick and now you called me a moron. It's 2-0 on the score card, my friend.

PS: The Mister Maia thing came from an interview of Sonnen. Sonnen himself said exactly that to the reporter when he mentioned Demian's name.


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