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Old 11-23-2012, 04:38 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I like abit of GSP but i reckon we have to be careful not to use a single fight (e.g silva v sonnen) to base our predictions

Silva's extra length should help him if he ends up on his back and I think his footwork is miles better than anyone GSP has faced - which will make it harder for GSP to get close

Also GSP's chin is alot closer to Andersons knee (and his foot for that matter

I think Silva lost his shit abit against Chael which gave him a good opportunity for a takedown

I also believe that Anderson is still improving and becoming more well-rounded (probably thanks to chael)

Soooo many ways for Anderson to win. I hope its abit of a war atleast until Anderson finishes it
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:41 PM   #62 (permalink)
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So, being thrown to the ground by Demian Maia is automatically demerit to Sonnen's wrestling skills? He could not just have been caught off guard, not expecting that trip, making a judment error or just been outsmarted by Maia at that moment?
So here is a proof even the "creme de la creme", Jon Jones, can be caught off guard and taken down not by a professional fighter like Maia, but by a very small Brazilian reporter, in this crazy TV fighting challenge sequence where he(Marinho, the reporter)faced already Lyoto and JDS.
It's an entertaining summary of the whole program. Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yQe2VtHN4
I don't think that demerit Jones wrestling

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Your passive aggression is really a thing of beauty. It's great the way you are trying to spin this around on me.
That was a pearl. Me trying to spin things around? I am not the one offending anyone. Looks like you are enjoying some sort of free pass to call ppl out of their minds, pricks, morons and asses in this forum. List of insults is increasing by the post.

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You respond to a multi-paragraph post I made earlier in this thread with one line:

"lame example man".
The exact part of your multi-paragraph post I think is a lame example was quoted in my post. It looked clear I had nothing to say about the rest of your post.

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Your post here served no purpose other than to bait me into an attack or argument, congratulations, mission accomplished. You knew exactly what you were doing.
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As for me forcing my opinion, I think it's probably universally agreed that Chael Sonnen is not THE best MMA wrestler in this sport. I'd be shocked if any one on this forum actually believes that Chael Sonnen is the best wrestler in the game today.
You did not say "is the best today" in your post, man. Stop changing words along the way to fix your point. You said "was ever", what is a big different thing. Sonnen is no longer a kid, you know.
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Any one who believed Chael was ever the better MMA wrestler was out of their god damn minds.
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Chael Sonnen got lateral dropped and flipped straight onto his head, I'd call that a bit of a rag dolling. The move was very Jon Jones esque. I also certainly wouldn't class Rick Story a great wrestler. He's decent, yes, great? I wouldn't say so.
So now is just a bit of rag dolling? Ok, then.
Fight Magazine has Rick Story in high regard:
http://www.fightmagazine.com/mma-mag...d=706&issid=46
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:35 AM   #63 (permalink)
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GSP is Rashads former training partner, and they probably still roll around sometimes. It's easy to go with your former trainer partner when he's a champion.

The thing with GSP, and I think Matt Hughes put it best, is that he's not that great of a pure wrestler, but what makes him so good is that he's able to set up his take-downs with good combinations. Whereas a pure wrestler like Chael Sonnen can come in and take someone down right off the bat. If GSP can't set up combinations against Anderson Silva, it's going to be more difficult to get a take-down against Silva than it was for Chael. While I still think he will be able to take Anderson down, he's got to go 5 rounds without being put out cold against the best finisher in the business...
...Excellent post. Even a few years back at Jackson's camp, GSP was taking down 205 guys pretty easily but they had fits trying to take him down. I think GSP's strength is a little underrated too. Georges is an athletic freak. St. Pierre's wrestling is near or at the top of the MMA game. I would love to see GSP fight Hendricks. Johny has sick power in both hands and his base is wicked solid. Everybody wants to see the Silva/GSP superfight. It would rake in the biggest numbers in UFC history...
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So, being thrown to the ground by Demian Maia is automatically demerit to Sonnen's wrestling skills? He could not just have been caught off guard, not expecting that trip, making a judment error or just been outsmarted by Maia at that moment?
So here is a proof even the "creme de la creme", Jon Jones, can be caught off guard and taken down not by a professional fighter like Maia, but by a very small Brazilian reporter, in this crazy TV fighting challenge sequence where he(Marinho, the reporter)faced already Lyoto and JDS.
It's an entertaining summary of the whole program. Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yQe2VtHN4
I don't think that demerit Jones wrestling

Retarded,

That was a pearl. Me trying to spin things around? I am not the one offending anyone. Looks like you are enjoying some sort of free pass to call ppl out of their minds, pricks, morons and asses in this forum. List of insults is increasing by the post.


The exact part of your multi-paragraph post I think is a lame example was quoted in my post. It looked clear I had nothing to say about the rest of your post.


Hum?


You did not say "is the best today" in your post, man. Stop changing words along the way to fix your point. You said "was ever", what is a big different thing. Sonnen is no longer a kid, you know.
Remember?


So now is just a bit of rag dolling? Ok, then.
Fight Magazine has Rick Story in high regard:
http://www.fightmagazine.com/mma-mag...d=706&issid=46
Stop arguing semantics and grasping at straws. No Chael Sonnen should NEVER have been considered the greatest wrestler in MMA. Not today, not yesterday, not last year, not ever. He's really done absolutely nothing to ever prove he was the greatest MMA wrestler in the game. You are the one trying to twist words around here, not me.

I've already seen that video and I hope posting that was some kind of a joke on your behalf. If not then, I don't really know what to say. Comparing Jon Jones messing around in a training session to Chael Sonnen competing in a high level MMA bout with lots on the line......Terrible point to make.

I also couldn't care less what "fight magazine" has to say about Rick Story. He isn't and hasn't ever been a great wrestler. He's a good wrestler and is a strong dude, that's about it.

Again, I will repeat myself. If you're not going to back up a point with valid explantions and reasoning, then don't post at all. The entire post which started all of this mess came from your; "lame post man....." rubbish. Where was your reasoning? Where was your explanation, at least in my initial post I backed up and explained my opinion. You just posted a one line post with no reasoning what so ever behind it, clearly trying to bait me into an argument.

Go away. We're done here.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:49 PM   #66 (permalink)
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<<"One thing about Anderson is this right here: Anderson's a great fighter, but one thing with Anderson is that he has such a problem with defending the takedown. And then on the ground even sometimes he allows people to advance position way too much.">>

But the think with Andy is that he's so good off his back no one can hurt him, and most wind up gagging to a triangle or RN choke.
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It would not be unreasonable to say that GSP will not finish Anderson. That simply leaves TOO much time for Anderson to due his thing. We all know what happened in the last moments of the first Cheal fight. I really think Anderson has this fight!
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