If Bas Rutten was in his prime and fighting today, how would he do? - Page 2 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply

Old 11-24-2012, 11:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 33
FBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Horticulturist View Post
Thank god he's not so I can live in an imaginary world where he would beat everyone.

Realistically if you take his stories about cortisone injections etc. into account, he wouldn't have been able to compete under the type of testing they do now.

But my GOD did he hit hard. Even in his "return" fight against Villereal his striking looked devastating compared to most UFC fighters.
I didn't think cortisone injections were something they looked out for? I know it's looked down upon by alot of athletes due to obvious health reasons but other than that, I thought it was A okay?
FBrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 11-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
WIDE OPEN
 
The Horticulturist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Elsweyr, Nova Scotia
Posts: 3,965
The Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings SystemThe Horticulturist Is Beyond A Rankings System
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBrown View Post
I didn't think cortisone injections were something they looked out for? I know it's looked down upon by alot of athletes due to obvious health reasons but other than that, I thought it was A okay?
You know what? You're probably right. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff. I do feel like there was probably..... other stuff in Bas' past that may have hindered his ability to get fights in the States, but it's all speculation on my part. The guy obviously had his shit together when he actually stepped in the ring.

The Horticulturist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 11:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 669
Harness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level nowHarness is on another level now
It's hard to think how well Bas would do today, but with that said, the man is obviously very skilled and an absolute beast. I'd go as far to say he'd still be a tough match up for anyone today as he is a very intelligent fighter. BOSH!


Sent from my iPhone using Verticalsports.com Free App
Harness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 01:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
Kneel Before Christ!
 
Roflcopter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,970
Roflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By All
He lost to Kevin Randleman and got a gift, that's all you really need to know.


Sent from my iPhone using VS Free
__________________
Roflcopter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 03:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
Middleweight
 
Joabbuac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,824
Joabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By AllJoabbuac Is Beloved By All
Randleman took him down time after time and he couldnt really do much off his back. Even in his only win against TK he spent most of the fight on his back getting hit before coming back to stop him in the 14th min.
Joabbuac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 06:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
RearNaked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Swinging from Roy Nelson's nuts.
Posts: 848
RearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A Baller
How would Wayne Gretsky do today?

Short answer: Pronger or Bertuzzi or some other prick would bash his brains out like they did Crosby.

The past belongs in the past.
RearNaked is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 12:34 AM   #17 (permalink)
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 33
FBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura aboutFBrown has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Horticulturist View Post
You know what? You're probably right. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff. I do feel like there was probably..... other stuff in Bas' past that may have hindered his ability to get fights in the States, but it's all speculation on my part. The guy obviously had his shit together when he actually stepped in the ring.

I think his body may have just been beaten up so bad that he needed them. I'm not sure what benefit cortisone would have to fighting but I had to get a couple injections when I tore my triceps years and years ago. Needless to say it made me feel drunker than I've ever been in my life lol.
FBrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 01:03 AM   #18 (permalink)
"Focus"
 
Life B Ez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 8,839
Life B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLife B Ez Is Beyond A Rankings System
Quote:
Originally Posted by RearNaked View Post
How would Wayne Gretsky do today?

Short answer: Pronger or Bertuzzi or some other prick would bash his brains out like they did Crosby.

The past belongs in the past.
Hockey isn't a good example with all the rule changes offensive players get so much space it's unreal. Gretzky Yzerman Mario Howe all would smash the nhl today. More like Crosby and Ovey would be in hell trouble playing with them in their time.

Football would be better anyone think the 72 dolphins or the 85 bears would even crack 500 in the modern nfl.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
__________________
Think. It Ain't Illegal Yet
"Discipline Hurts Less Than Regret"
Life B Ez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 06:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
RearNaked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Swinging from Roy Nelson's nuts.
Posts: 848
RearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A BallerRearNaked Is A Baller
Quote:
Originally Posted by Life B Ez View Post
Hockey isn't a good example with all the rule changes offensive players get so much space it's unreal. Gretzky Yzerman Mario Howe all would smash the nhl today. More like Crosby and Ovey would be in hell trouble playing with them in their time.

Football would be better anyone think the 72 dolphins or the 85 bears would even crack 500 in the modern nfl.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
Yeah, because it's the legal hits that end guy's careers in hockey...

I was more commenting on the mean spirited Marty McSorely/Todd Bertuzzi/Zdeno Chara hits that Gretsky would be taking from guys after he scored 3 goals on them in a playoff game. Gretsky would look a lot like a Sedin twin if he played today: Putting up huge numbers in the regular season and then getting cheap-shotted in game one of the playoffs by some thug the other team only pays to hurt finesse players.

Crosby's having enough trouble making it to retirement with even one functioning brain cell in his own era. No need for time travel there.

Rutten's problem would be getting lay and prayed, wall and stalled or taken down and submitted all while only having 15 minutes to work and working under a rule set that favors wrestlers. The 'gameplanners' of today would exploit his weakness on the ground and he wouldn't be getting any of those Rutten/Randleman decisions in the modern UFC.

Rutten would KTFO a few guys and then he'd run into guys who fight just to win, and like all real fighters, he'd probably 'lose' to them. Also, Dana's ridiculous stripping of Diaz's title shot would look like nothing compared to what Dana would start doing once Rutten opened his mouth.

Rutten wouldn't put up with any of Dana's shit. And people would listen because Rutten is such a well-spoken guy. Dana couldn't afford to have Rutten going around airing his dirty laundry to the world because you can't discredit Rutten the way you can these other guys that call Dana out.

Last edited by RearNaked : 11-25-2012 at 06:43 AM.
RearNaked is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 09:18 AM   #20 (permalink)
Lightweight
 
BrutalKO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida
Posts: 1,953
BrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By AllBrutalKO Is Beloved By All
...I think many of the older fighters & ex-champions-even in their prime wouldn't fair well against the new, more well-rounded, highly trained coached fighters of today. We all know MMA has evolved by leaps & bounds over the years. Bas knows all the tricks of the trade, it's the aggressiveness and improved techniques of today's fighters thats on a different level...
BrutalKO is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios