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Old 11-27-2012, 03:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I certainly don't believe that "God" or "Jesus Christ" started the fire, and I can tell you don't either. But whether he believes God, a Flying Spaghetti monster, or an invisible Giant Fire breathing dragon started the fire should not surmount the detrimental situation that he's in right now.
In terms of likeliness, from most to least likely, I'd say:

1. Dragon
2. God
3. Spaghetti Monster
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:01 PM   #42 (permalink)
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This thread is pretty amazing. So much hatred of other people's beliefs. Makes me wonder what drives that hatred. Any way you slice it, Hallman is going through a lot of bad things right now, and if someone wishes these things on anyone, it says something about them as a person. I know not everyone bashing him has "wished" this on him, but it sounds like some have.

Don't get too worked up about what people post here though. We shouldn't expect religious wisdom on an MMA forum, just like we wouldn't expect insightful MMA opinions on a religion forum.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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This thread is pretty amazing. So much hatred of other people's beliefs. Makes me wonder what drives that hatred. Any way you slice it, Hallman is going through a lot of bad things right now, and if someone wishes these things on anyone, it says something about them as a person. I know not everyone bashing him has "wished" this on him, but it sounds like some have.

Don't get too worked up about what people post here though. We shouldn't expect religious wisdom on an MMA forum, just like we wouldn't expect insightful MMA opinions on a religion forum.
Really...I would argue that religion has done more to bring hate upon people than anything else.

I agree with everything you said, but please don't get a pretentious attitude and then say something like that.
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In terms of likeliness, from most to least likely, I'd say:

1. Dragon
2. God
3. Spaghetti Monster
Funniest post I've read here in some time.

Someone said "religious wisdom" - now there's an oxymoron I hadn't heard before.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:24 PM   #45 (permalink)
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That is a highly subjective statement.

I'm not saying become a Christian or anything, but when someone such as Dennis goes through the problems he's been through being cut from the UFC and having his family involved in some of his other troubling affairs, the last thing he needs is for someone bash him just because he doesn't have the same outlook as they do. Maybe he has done some shitty things, but in the grand aspect of things, who hasn't?

You can't just see things only through your perspective and think that your way of believing things is the almighty idealology. I don't know what your personal beliefs are, but imagine if you just got fired from your job, then your house burned down and you lost all your precious belongings, and you have virtually no way to pay for the damage that has been done. How would you feel if people bypassed your situation only to regress to the fact that what you believe in, they considered to have "sucked"?

I certainly don't believe that "God" or "Jesus Christ" started the fire, and I can tell you don't either. But whether he believes God, a Flying Spaghetti monster, or an invisible Giant Fire breathing dragon started the fire should not surmount the detrimental situation that he's in right now.
I get that he is going through problems and thats sad. But there are people with much worse situations out there who dont get nearly this amount of attention and dont have a background of being a PRO UFC Fighter. So while i do admit his situation sucks i think if i was going to donate it certainly wouldnt be to the ex pro UFC fighter.

And he made his religious views/comments public domain. He could easiley have kept all his comments to himself but instead he likes going around telling people their kids will burn in a living hell while he and other people fly to heaven and live in paradise.

On second thought

**** him
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In terms of likeliness, from most to least likely, I'd say:

1. Dragon
2. God
3. Spaghetti Monster
Thing is, we have undeniable proof that spaghetti exists... And the dragon myth exists because ancient people came across dinosaur bones...

So I'd say it goes

1. Spaghetti monster
2. Dragons








3. god.

And I think most of us aren't holding Hallman's christianity against him. Be a christian, great, no problem. Hallman is a christian fundamentalist though, that belives in the rapture. That's the scary stuff because it involves other people's families/kids being left on earth after the return of the christ to be torn apart by demons.

Being a moderate christian, or a moderate muslim or a moderate jew, is all more similar to each other than any of those beliefs are to being a christian fundamentalist, muslim fundamentalist or jewish fundamentalist.

It's the fundamentalism that makes it scary, not the specific religion. We like to think christianity isn't scary like the other religions but it wasn't that long ago that christians were burning people at the stake and drowning them in cages.

Nothing wrong with faith, but rejoicing in, or looking forward to the punishment of people who were brought up to believe in a different god than you, or no god at all, is just a sociopathic as rejoicing when someone with a different skin colour than you gets hit by a bus.

And people wondering where 'hatred' (read: fear) or religious fundamentalism comes from, I suggest some reading.

Start with the Spanish Inquisition, the crusades, the Salem witch trials, 9/11, Israel/Palestine conflict, the hale bopp (heaven's gate) comet cult, the catholic church and their history of protecting pedophiles... and on and on and on...

and one more time, I'll reiterate, big Hallman (the fighter) fan, he's a true pioneer, and it's a tragic what's happened to him in the last few months. But when someone allows a few bad breaks to turn them into a fundamentalist, of ANY religion, I lose a bit of respect. We've all had bad times in our lives, but most of us never thought 'gee I hope god comes to earth and punishes everyone else.'

sorry for the essay.

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Not going to debate whether God burned down his house or if it was science. Its completely silly considering Dennis is now practically homeless. Hopefully his house was insured and he gets a nice settlement out of it so he can start rebuilding.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:57 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Time is more important, indeed.

PS: And I agree with RN about the fundamentalism being the most dangerous issue. That segregates people.
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