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post #21 of 57 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 01:14 PM
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Who cares really. It's a fun fight but makes little sense. Anderson has been fighting at 205 a few times now, if anything he should go after Jon Jones. Meanwhile GSP has a guy on his division who's knocking contenders out left and right. A fight with Hendricks makes much more sense.
So, Anderson should move up a weight and go after Jon Jones, yet GSP shouldnt move up a weight and fight Anderson?

I've said it a few times, Jones is amazing, to me the greatest LHW of all time, but at the end of the day I remember Machida being called "unbeatable". Jones as it stands IS a flavour of the month. He's been on top for what? Two years? GSP and Anderson have been legends for years now. GSP could have lost to Condit, and Anderson could have lost to Bonnar, and nothing would change. It's two fighters with just one weight class between them who are practically already hall of famers. Jones won't have the oppertunity to solidify himself to their level and fight Anderson cause I'd see Spider retiring by then. Otherwise, it would always feel to me that it's a bigger and younger man taking advatnage of a fading legend's name. Anderson and GSP are completley on par with their career highlights right now. It's the right time, and doesnt harm either. GSP is #2 behind Anderson, with maybe Fedor in the mix. If GSP beats Anderson, he becomes the greatest of all time. All the money in the world wouldnt mean as much as that to a fighter, or anyone in their respective trade. This is basically his only chance to be the best. The best WW Vs the best of all time, those titles arent even compairable.

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So, Anderson should move up a weight and go after Jon Jones, yet GSP shouldnt move up a weight and fight Anderson?

I've said it a few times, Jones is amazing, to me the greatest LHW of all time, but at the end of the day I remember Machida being called "unbeatable". Jones as it stands IS a flavour of the month. He's been on top for what? Two years? GSP and Anderson have been legends for years now. GSP could have lost to Condit, and Anderson could have lost to Bonnar, and nothing would change. It's two fighters with just one weight class between them who are practically already hall of famers. Jones won't have the oppertunity to solidify himself to their level and fight Anderson cause I'd see Spider retiring by then. Otherwise, it would always feel to me that it's a bigger and younger man taking advatnage of a fading legend's name. Anderson and GSP are completley on par with their career highlights right now. It's the right time, and doesnt harm either. GSP is #2 behind Anderson, with maybe Fedor in the mix. If GSP beats Anderson, he becomes the greatest of all time. All the money in the world wouldnt mean as much as that to a fighter, or anyone in their respective trade. This is basically his only chance to be the best. The best WW Vs the best of all time, those titles arent even compairable.
Co-Sign! It is mind boggling how people want the #1 and #3 P4P fighters to fight but not the #1 and #2. I really don't get it.
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It's obvious Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacman. We should just brand him as a coward and move on.
Dana calls Floyd a ***** all the time. And his one big thing is "UFC make the big fights happen. boxing doesn't."
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Hendricks was taken down by Rick Story and beat.

But that is obviously the fight a lot of you want.

Yea, good call.

EDIT: Agree fully with the top post on this page as well.

38 year old ANderson should move to 205 to fight Jones. But GSP shouldn't meet Anderson at 178. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Hendricks was taken down by Rick Story and beat.

But that is obviously the fight a lot of you want.

Yea, good call.
Right. Lets focus on the loss. Not his fights since then. That makes total sense when determining good matchups.

... from now on, im going to look at a contenders fights from two years previous. That's how I'm going to judge whether they deserve it or not.
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What an awful excuse, he doesn't want to lose, wish he would say that instead.
You could say the same about Silva not wanting to fight Jones.
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Hendricks was taken down by Rick Story and beat.

But that is obviously the fight a lot of you want.

Yea, good call.

EDIT: Agree fully with the top post on this page as well.

38 year old ANderson should move to 205 to fight Jones. But GSP shouldn't meet Anderson at 178. Hypocrisy at its finest.
these posts are all pure ignorance. Ignorance of the fighters' skillsets and the odds of each fight.

GSP vs. Silva = 90% silva win
Silva vs. Jones = 50/50

yeah, let's all watch a guy get his ass beat because we don't like actual fights. If you want to see GSP get his ass handed to him then sure this fight makes sense, everyone obsesses over the weight issues while they have no clue about how the actual fights would go. Anderson would humiliate GSP, that's why he don't take the fight. Jones vs. Silva is a close fight, holy crap what crazy people we are for not wanting to see a one-sided beat down. Now make some ignorant comment about how GSP needs to move up and prove himself or some garbage like that.

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Right. Lets focus on the loss. Not his fights since then. That makes total sense when determining good matchups.

... from now on, im going to look at a contenders fights from two years previous. That's how I'm going to judge whether they deserve it or not.
He KO'd Fitch in like 13 seconds and KO'd a guy who leaves his chin up in the air as if he was taught to do it. Doesn't change the fact GSP would out-wrestle him. Doesn't change that he is the run of the mill contender at 170. Doesn't change the fact that he should have lost a very close fight with Kos. Kos is a guy who doesn't have any striking compared to GSP. A guy who is about even in teh wrestling department. Yea, Hendricks has power, like other guys had aspects as well.

Hendricks deserves a title shot. Anderson/GSP deserves to happen. Unless you think GSP would just absolutely get trashed by Anderson, then I don't understand how anyone can be more excited for a Hendricks fight over an Anderson fight?

I think GSP would get trashed...but so does most everyone else. But that is a once in a career type of fight. And I don't believe it would have much of anything to do with size. It would have to do with superior technique, hand-eye coordination, fighting intelligence, accuracy, and confidence.

People sit out all the time. I couldn't care less if Hendricks was shelved for a while. It isn't 6th grade basketball. Shit happens. Its a business.

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these posts are all pure ignorance. Ignorance of the fighters' skillsets and the odds of each fight.

GSP vs. Silva = 90% silva win
Silva vs. Jones = 50/50

yeah, let's all watch a guy get his ass beat because we don't like actual fights. If you want to see GSP get his ass handed to him then sure this fight makes sense, everyone obsesses over the weight issues while they have no clue about how the actual fights would go. Anderson would humiliate GSP, that's why he don't take the fight. Jones vs. Silva is a close fight, holy crap what crazy people we are for not wanting to see a one-sided beat down. Now make some ignorant comment about how GSP needs to move up and prove himself or some garbage like that.
Your ignorance is in that you think you can make %s and pass them off as fact. When quite a few people in here believe GSP would win that fight. Make a poll, see if you come up with 90% Silva in that one. I don't even read half of your posts. You call me ignorant and then start your post with the essence of ignorance.

I want to see both you tool. Both fights are with 2 fighters separated by 1 weight class. I want to see both ******* fights.

Quit following me around ya goofball.
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Dana calls Floyd a ***** all the time. And his one big thing is "UFC make the big fights happen. boxing doesn't."
A VERY big reason why I'm an MMA fan over a boxing fan, despite following boxing to a ridiculous degree in the past. Anderson Vs GSP or Jones is literally a bigger fight than anything in boxing in a long time, maybe with the exception of Haye/Klitschko if you count the rivalry and such.

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Right. Lets focus on the loss. Not his fights since then. That makes total sense when determining good matchups.

... from now on, im going to look at a contenders fights from two years previous. That's how I'm going to judge whether they deserve it or not.
Agreed. I dont even like Hendricks, but I think that if Condit has the strength to test GSP, than Hendricks would knock him the fuk out if he landed just one clean shot.

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