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Old 11-26-2012, 07:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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And I really wish DW make a rematch for Condit!
You wanna see Condit lose again in exactly the same way, just like 90% of this board predicted? Condit needs to improve before he deserves another shot.

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He was 193 at the time of the shields fight
Just curious where you heard this? Did GSP say that?


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Why can't he fight at 185 if he walks around at 188? I dont get it really. I mean how much weight can Silva put back in one day if he cuts to 185?
When you cut water weight you can put it all back on in one day. Silva weighs closer to 200 lbs come fight time, basically meaning they are *gasp* - wait for it - about 15 lbs or one division apart come fight time the way they are now.

That isn't including the other enormous advantage of height and reach.

GSP isn't saying he can't take the fight at this weight, he's just saying that it would be a big difference in size, and GSP would rather bulk up than just jump weight classes.

It also sounds like GSP doesn't want to give Anderson his "cherry" on his ice cream sundae, or whatever, when it might **** up the legacy he is still trying to build. Anderson gets his send off fight and GSP is kind of in limbo (if he truly can't go back down after bulking up).

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Good job taking the second quote completely out of context. GSP is saying that there is still relevant money to be made in his division, and that he can still make good money without going for the big one. GSP also continues to say, in the same sentence, right after you cut it off, several reasons other than money that he fights for. So...yeah...

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there's money to be made, there are fights in my weight class, other challenges out there, and if I fight him, I will have to gain weight, while he will have to lose weight, and then afterwards, I won't be able to come back to my weight class.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It would be hilarious if Andy dropped to 170 and knocked his head off. Floyd St Pierre is talking a bunch of nonsense he just knows that he would likely lose so he doesn't want to fight him.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If he doesn't want to fight him that's really all he has to say. He's reminding me a lot of Pacquiao, Pacquiao came up with a lot of reasons to stall the fight. Mayweather obviously has an ego but at least he was consistent on his demands.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:57 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Silva is calling for the fight, so go get GSP <move down>, don't expect GSP to do the hard part. <move up>
This is all that needs to be said about this whole thing. Everything else is secondary.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You wanna see Condit lose again in exactly the same way, just like 90% of this board predicted? Condit needs to improve before he deserves another shot.



Just curious where you heard this? Did GSP say that?




When you cut water weight you can put it all back on in one day. Silva weighs closer to 200 lbs come fight time, basically meaning they are *gasp* - wait for it - about 15 lbs or one division apart come fight time the way they are now.

That isn't including the other enormous advantage of height and reach.

GSP isn't saying he can't take the fight at this weight, he's just saying that it would be a big difference in size, and GSP would rather bulk up than just jump weight classes.

It also sounds like GSP doesn't want to give Anderson his "cherry" on his ice cream sundae, or whatever, when it might **** up the legacy he is still trying to build. Anderson gets his send off fight and GSP is kind of in limbo (if he truly can't go back down after bulking up).




Good job taking the second quote completely out of context. GSP is saying that there is still relevant money to be made in his division, and that he can still make good money without going for the big one. GSP also continues to say, in the same sentence, right after you cut it off, several reasons other than money that he fights for. So...yeah...
Yes, GSP said it at the press conference for the shields fight, he said he was already bulking up during the whold build up and i think he said it at the pre fight PC and the post fight PC...his trainers also said he was 193 AND that he had cutting weight down to a science to the point that come fight night he is able to put all his weight back so at the time of the shields fight, according to what his trainers said he would be 193

Now i dont have a link for you or anything so you can doubt me if you want obviously, but i know this for a fact..thats why i think its wierd how he says he is 188 now


also andy is usually between 198-202 on fight night...i dont think the difference would be 15 pounds it would be more like 10...thats not that big of a difference man, GSP is the best wrestler in MMA, 10 pounds shouldnt make a difference when it comes to taking someone down...especially someone with average TDD like Anderson

the height advantage is pretty much the same one that condit had...did it make that much of a difference? also the reach advantage, if we go by UFC stats, would be less than an inch...if im not mistaken Andys reach is listed as 77.5 while GSPs is listed as 77

now i doubt this is accurate...Anderson has much longer arms but if they measure the reach from the shoulders then that would explain why their reach is similar, since GSPs shoulders seem to be much wider than andersons

still...Anderson wouldnt use his size to win this fight, his striking will win it...he could be 15 pounds lighter it wouldnt really matter...he would catch him just like Condit was able to catch him...the difference is when Anderson catches you he finishes.

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I have to admit I'm disappointed. All this talk of 'stuff left to do in my division' is just not true. I realize he has always been uber polite, so he doesn't want to say anything like 'There is no one worth fighting in my div', but cut the crap.

If you are ever fighting Silva, now is the time, there is nothing to wait for. There are no challengers that bring anything new. If GSP wants to stay at 170, because thats his natural weight class, fine, just say so, enough hemming and hawing.
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I am so over this fight and have never really been calling for it. Give us GSP/Hendricks and Silva/Bisping and call it a day.
This pretty much sums up my opinion on this whole scenario
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How is GSP at 188 comparable to Anderson at 234? I think those figures are very inaccurate.
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I am not imprezzed with his excuses
I'm not either. It's clear as day GSP doesn't want this fight, not now not ever. Sorry to piss on everybodys parade. But this isn't happening, GSP doesn't want the fight. I wish he would man up and just decline the fight. Dana would throw a hissy fit, some fans might as well, but it will pass. The world won't end if this fight doesn't happen.
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