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B.J. Penn 31 46.97%
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post #211 of 239 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 06:36 AM
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No way Rory fights GSP. I hope Condit-Rory takes place.

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Just watched the post fight conference.

Apparently he said "he'll cross that bridge when he gets there." Then he backtracked and said no, probably not since GSP helped em a lot and he did not want to "backstab em," plus "tri-star has done a lot for his career."

That I do respect. But it still puts a lot of questions in the air. Will they eventually fight or is this the reason why GSP will officially move up.

After reflecting on this fight. BJ at 170 is like a V4 engine vs everyone who's a V8, at least at 155 he's running on a V6. He's simply outmatched. He could have beaten Hughes II, GSP first time, and Fitch had he not gassed. Simple as that. It's too taxing on his body to go a full three rounds even. I don't even want to see a five rounder. But in 155 he goes a full five rounds no problem. He lost the fight against Edgar the first time. I don't think he took em seriously enough. That's what put em on a tail spin. Go back to 155 reclaim the throne or at least work his way up to contender status and bow out gracefully. Heck BJ at 145 vs Aldo would be extremely interesting.

BJ brings in Hughes and he almost beats Fitch. This guy surrounds himself with a bunch of yes men. Nobody pushes em. Same scenario with Fedor and Mirco. How can you achieve optimal performances and evolve without training against people who can kick your butt on a daily basis. That's the only way to improve and test yourself.

Flip side the LHW title holder, Rory, and the plethora of rising stars are where they are today because of their training camps. Talent will only get them so far. Just like the Lakers. You can have all the stars in the world, but without the ZEN MASTER to guide you through it's just a bit tougher.

I think BJ will bounce back. Nate Diaz went through the same odyssey.

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y surrounds himself with a bunch of yes men. Nobody pushes em. Same scenario with Fedor and Mirco. How can you achieve optimal performances and evolve without training against people who can kick your butt on a daily basis. That's the only way to improve and test yourself.
Not sold on that. Woodley, Thompson, Askren, Hieron, Healy. Those guys were 100% pushing him.

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Just watched the post fight conference.

Apparently he said "he'll cross that bridge when he gets there." Then he backtracked and said no, probably not since GSP helped em a lot and he did not want to "backstab em," plus "tri-star has done a lot for his career."

That I do respect. But it still puts a lot of questions in the air. Will they eventually fight or is this the reason why GSP will officially move up.
Or when Rory moves up. He has already mentioned going to 185.


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Condit would roll him if they fought again he was a wide open brawler the first time they fought.

Not really impressed by Roidy beating up a guy who he has 7 inches of reach and 30 pounds on.
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Condit would roll him if they fought again he was a wide open brawler the first time they fought.

Not really impressed by Roidy beating up a guy who he has 7 inches of reach and 30 pounds on.
^^^^^ That was anything but impressive, indeed.

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Condit would roll him if they fought again he was a wide open brawler the first time they fought.

Not really impressed by Roidy beating up a guy who he has 7 inches of reach and 30 pounds on.
I don't think "roll him" means what you think it means.
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It was sad seeing how Rory just walk through Penn. As great as WW BJ Penn once was, he can't hang with the big guys any more.

If he wants to continue to fight, he need to do it at 155 (where he still can be a beast) if not, I would rather see him retire.
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BJ weighed in at 168 - that tells me he didn't do much with his weight leading up to the fight.

That's probably what he weighs naturally when he's training for a fight, so he either has to cut from ~168 to 155, or just take fights at 170, but against bigger opponents who are cutting weight. People have always questioned BJs training, dedication, etc... and I just don't think he wants to go through the weight cutting process anymore.
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Anyone know what Rory was saying to Penn during the second round?

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