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Rory MacDonald 33 50.00%
B.J. Penn 31 46.97%
Draw 2 3.03%
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm pulling for my boy BJ in this one. I hope he kicks a**!
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Rory is good at everything besides his bottom game, i expect BJ to shoot for the TD sometime in the first and put a beating on him, you know BJ has been watching the Condit fight and taking notes.. i really hope his updated physique has some cardio to go along with the strength boost..
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Rory is good at everything, he's a modern fighter. If he's not having his way in one area, he can take the fight in a different direction with confidence.

And if you want to quote the Condit fight, Rory was handling him very well, winning the first two rounds in all areas. He said himself it was too much too soon, big opponent on the main card for his second UFC fight. Experience lose him that fight, not skills.
Sorry, I should have rephrased the post to great instead of good. Rory isn't great at any thing.

If you look at all of the great fighters and great champions out there, they all have that one area in which they are light years ahead of their opponent, and then on top of that they are also very good in all other areas.

Example:

GSP: excelling wrestling ability, well rounded every where else.
Anderson: Striking god, well rounded in all other areas
Jones: Monster wrestler, well rounded every where else
JDS: Most feared hands in the division, extremely hard to get a hold of and take down.

These great fighters all have that one thing in common. The one area where they really shine in and stand out from the crowd, and then the solid all round game to go on top of that.

With people hailing Rory as "the next GSP", "the future of the division", I'm not sure which aspect he's great in, I'm struggling to work it out. He's like a Martin Kampmann. Good in all facets of the game, but not outanding in any particular area and I don't think with such a skillset he'll ever become champion. I don't think he'll get past BJ or Kampmann for that matter.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:38 PM   #24 (permalink)
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thats a good point, i wonder who would be the favorite if this was Rory vs. kampman.. Rory is a lot like kampman he just hasnt faced the same caliber fighters that kampman has
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:37 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Rooting for Penn as always.

Base on recent record, dont count on Penn's cardio against WW. But he is still a threats against any top WW in the first round. He was pretty even against GSP during the 1st round of their 2nd fight and looking good against Fitch and Diaz during the 1st round of their fights. Penn need to take this via KO/TKO during the 1st round.

But if this goes beyond the first round, chances is Penn might be overhelm by Rory.

Either way, WAR PENN!
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:38 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah, Diaz and Fitch are my two favorite UFC fighters at the moment and Penn made both of them look silly for a brief moment at the beginning of both of those fights.

The problem for Penn is when the other guy gets out of the position he picks up his ball and goes home.

The only time I've ever seen Rory in a bad position, he caved and got TKO'd so I think that's a good sign for Penn in this fight.

But the second that bell rings at the end of the first round, Rory wins. Penn has to stop him in the first.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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BJ please win this omg if he does I am going to go insane.
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Yeah, Diaz and Fitch are my two favorite UFC fighters at the moment and Penn made both of them look silly for a brief moment at the beginning of both of those fights.

The problem for Penn is when the other guy gets out of the position he picks up his ball and goes home.

The only time I've ever seen Rory in a bad position, he caved and got TKO'd so I think that's a good sign for Penn in this fight.

But the second that bell rings at the end of the first round, Rory wins. Penn has to stop him in the first.
Someone else gets it.

This has always been Penn's problem, he has no heart. As soon as a fight doesn't go his way, thats it. He has no ability or will to come from behind. Like you say, Penn wins in the first round, or he has no chance.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:38 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Rory's standup is overrated, it simply isn't very good. Certainly not at the level of BJ's boxing. I could see BJ doing to Rory what he did to Hughes in their 3rd fight. Rory is a beast on the ground but his technique on the feet especially his head movement is no better than average.

Penn by KO round one or two.
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BJ sounds insanely motivated, has done all the right things in camp brought in the right people and just wants to remind everyone he is one of the greatest of all time.

Rory sounds dismissive like he is looking past BJ and like he is enjoying living up life and his new found fame. That isn't to say he is being lazy but he doesn't seem to be taking it as serious as BJ. (Did I really just type that? Seems so strange)
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