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Rory MacDonald
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B.J. Penn
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12-07-2012, 05:47 PM
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#71 (permalink)
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The Mad Titan
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Originally Posted by Finnsidious
Someone else gets it.
This has always been Penn's problem, he has no heart. As soon as a fight doesn't go his way, thats it. He has no ability or will to come from behind. Like you say, Penn wins in the first round, or he has no chance.
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Penn has plenty of heart and it showed in Diaz fight, he got beat up in the 2nd rd with one eye completely closed yet he still was walking forward in the 3rd and actually made it a close rd despite being gassed and hurt. the only time he has ever "quit" is when he is gassed and has a strong wrestler on top of him but there is not much you can do in that situation.
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12-07-2012, 05:50 PM
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#72 (permalink)
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The Mad Titan
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Originally Posted by jonnyg4508
Rory is talented. And I understand beating BJ Penn is more than records and what not, Penn is a vet who has skills.
But a win over Penn really does nothing much in my eyes. I mean it would be his best win by far, he has few if any real good wins.
But he is fighting a washed up LW coming out of retirement. He is the 3 to 1 favorite. He SHOULD win this fight, it is served up on a platter to him to collect a "name". Penn isn't even a top 10 WW, his record at WW is god awful.
Like I said, beating Penn is bigger than what the records indicate. But I'm sick of young fighters knocking off over the hill past legends and everyone acting like they did the unthinkable. Thiago Alves knee'd Hughes in the face and people went ape shit as if it was so impressive. Cain KO'd an immobile Big Nog. Bader beats a fat Rampage who didn't care anymore.
Rory should real dominate this fight if he is the prospect everyone thinks he is. Is young but has a lot of experience for a young guy, trains with GSP and one of the best gyms in the sport, has a massive size/strength advantage, has cardio advantage, is fighting a guy coming out of retirement who can't go more than 1 or 2 rounds. He should cruise.
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Lol wut? Cain is the last person to beat a 100% healthy and in shape Nog.
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12-07-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Budhisten
Awww yeah - BJ is ready to go  |
Sweet, when BJ looks intense and can't stand still that is when he is a killer, when he is all calm and shit that is usually a bad sign.
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12-07-2012, 10:32 PM
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12-07-2012, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Life B Ez
His mma guard has been awful. His jitz in mma has been just plain underwhelming. He's never subbed someone off his back he never sweeps he just locks up and tries to avoid damage. And hit guard is not nearly as affective at welterweight.
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How many elite fighters do we see submitted by somebody off there back? Its not BJ's guard its that frankly at an elite level the guard is virtually dead and has been from a long time.
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12-08-2012, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Toxic
How many elite fighters do we see submitted by somebody off there back? Its not BJ's guard its that frankly at an elite level the guard is virtually dead and has been from a long time.
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with some exceptions of course: Chael Sonnen...Fedor...
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12-08-2012, 12:41 AM
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Kneel Before Christ!
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12-08-2012, 01:07 AM
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is that a zit right on his nipple or a third nipple?
either way, kill the mutant, BJ! kill it with fire! |
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12-08-2012, 02:17 AM
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Kneel Before Christ!
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Rory's jaw is getting bigger.
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12-08-2012, 03:12 AM
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Amateur
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Despite being a BJ Penn fan, I thought Rory had this the moment they made this fight.
But looking at the press conferences and weight in, BJ hasnt look this good and fire up in a long long time. BJ look very well win this fight. But he has to take it in the 1st if not early 2nd round.
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