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Alexander Gustafsson 30 60.00%
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua 19 38.00%
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post #121 of 131 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 05:24 PM
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Gustafsson is the one who is underrated, not Rashad. Gus striking is just way too good for Rashad to handle, and Rashad won't take him down very easily. Gus is just way stronger and bigger than Rashad, I've heard people who have sparred with both GSP, Jones and Gus and they say Gus is the strongest by far, and a better than fighter than any of them.
Gus is the better fighter out of p4p greats? Ok....

And it's not really a surprise that Gus (205) is stronger than a welterweight. And Rashad is most definitely capable of doing what Davis did against Gus.


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Gus is the better fighter out of p4p greats? Ok....

And it's not really a surprise that Gus (205) is stronger than a welterweight. And Rashad is most definitely capable of doing what Davis did against Gus.


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I dont think anyone poses more machismo than Rua. You cna hit this guy with a baseball bat, you could probably shoot him in the chest, he will still come forward throwing bombs. true warrior in every sense of the word. I think if he implemented a better gameplan say maybe the ne he had in the first machida fight. Well timed low kicks, lateral movement strong punches I think he could have won. But not take anything away from Gustaffson, congrats to him.
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I dont think anyone poses more machismo than Rua. You cna hit this guy with a baseball bat, you could probably shoot him in the chest, he will still come forward throwing bombs. true warrior in every sense of the word. I think if he implemented a better gameplan say maybe the ne he had in the first machida fight. Well timed low kicks, lateral movement strong punches I think he could have won. But not take anything away from Gustaffson, congrats to him.
True dat man...I didn't think Gustaf could finish em as most haven't throughout his career. I worry for Shogun though. He's been taking A LOT of damage lately.

Thought I saw Shogun land flush shots on Gustaf unless he rolled with it. Man, it looked like Gustaf was a HW. He looked huge. It'll be a great battle against the LHW title holder.

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Nope, but it may surprise some that he is stronger than Jones. The Phil Davis fight was over 2,5 years ago, and Gus has only been training MMA for 6 years so on over 2,5 years he has improved immensely, especially on his ground game, when he started to train with Phil Davis after his loss. If Shogun had no chance to beat Gus I can't see how either Rashad or Machida would beat him (I'm a Machida fan). The only two persons i see, stand a chance against Gus is Hendo and Jones.
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Nope, but it may surprise some that he is stronger than Jones. The Phil Davis fight was over 2,5 years ago, and Gus has only been training MMA for 6 years so on over 2,5 years he has improved immensely, especially on his ground game, when he started to train with Phil Davis after his loss. If Shogun had no chance to beat Gus I can't see how either Rashad or Machida would beat him (I'm a Machida fan). The only two persons i see, stand a chance against Gus is Hendo and Jones.
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Man, it looked like Gustaf was a HW. He looked huge. It'll be a great battle against the LHW title holder.
That will not go unnoticed. That is funny as hell when you call the LHW title holder, LHW title holder...


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I dont think anyone poses more machismo than Rua. You cna hit this guy with a baseball bat, you could probably shoot him in the chest, he will still come forward throwing bombs. true warrior in every sense of the word. I think if he implemented a better gameplan say maybe the ne he had in the first machida fight. Well timed low kicks, lateral movement strong punches I think he could have won. But not take anything away from Gustaffson, congrats to him.
Jon Jones wants to remind you that he made Shogun tap to strikes within 3 rounds.
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Jon Jones wants to remind you that he made Shogun tap to strikes within 3 rounds.
This "tap to strikes" is very subjective concept and went out of proportion after BJ comments. Shogun was being hit heavily, indeed, but he rather tapped due to extreme exhaustion and absolute lack of capability to even stand up to begin with, not mentioning fight back a fully energized Jones.


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Nope, but it may surprise some that he is stronger than Jones. The Phil Davis fight was over 2,5 years ago, and Gus has only been training MMA for 6 years so on over 2,5 years he has improved immensely, especially on his ground game, when he started to train with Phil Davis after his loss. If Shogun had no chance to beat Gus I can't see how either Rashad or Machida would beat him (I'm a Machida fan). The only two persons i see, stand a chance against Gus is Hendo and Jones.
Probably because present day Rashad and Machida are better than present day Shogun?

Shogun has completely abandoned his kicks and is content to make it a war, Rashad would be the best test for Gus considering Gus' only loss is to Davis and we all saw how Rashad handled Phil, as for Machida it's an interesting fight because Gus is a great fighter but he's been fighting guys like Hamill, Vlad, Thiago Silva, and present day Shogun who are slow and plod forward. Lyoto, arguably the fastest guy at 205 would show him something much different with his ability to dart in and out and was the first person to land a clean punch on Jones who has longer arms than Gus.

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