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Alexander Gustafsson 30 60.00%
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua 19 38.00%
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post #41 of 131 (permalink) Old 12-04-2012, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
Shogun may have all around better Jui-Jitsu but Phil definitely has a better sub game then Shogun. it's basically a myth.

Shogun FTW though
Shogun has dominated loads of guys on the ground, he just tends to go for the KO on the ground because his GNP is so good and he spent the majority of his career in an organization where he could stomp on guys heads and kick them in the teeth on the ground.
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Shogun has sown some surprisingly improved wrestling lately, but I don't see him taking Gustafsson down. The only guy to take Gus down was Phil Davis, who'm he has sense made his training partner, so you can imagine how much improved his takedown defense is.

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There's a recent picture of Shogun, he looks like he's in good shape but time will tell if his body can withstand the punishment.

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Originally Posted by GrappleRetarded View Post
I'm tired of the Gus hype. It ends in one week.

Shogun. KO.

You ain't ****in' with no Thiago Silva here Gus.
I'm in a torn situation (Like Gus as an up and comer, plus he's one of the guys in my NPFFL). However, that being said... Shogun is one of my favourite fighters and want that above pic on Sat as he wins via T(KO).

I think it comes down to who wants it more, cub lion vs. middle aged lion. Someone's gotta eat

Shogun: He's a berserker, great MT and very underrated BJJ ground game. He's got a serious chin that's been blasted by JJ, Hendo, Rampage, Lyoto, Liddel and hasn't been KO'd. He's probably got the biggest heart in the UFC if not MMA, to come back from a beating Hendo was giving him.

When he engages, he eats punches to land devastating blows on his opponents. His GnP is one of the best in the game as is his killer instincts.

His weakness has to be cardio (with heavier grapplers/wrestlers) and the re-injuring of his knees (constant surgeries).

Gus: Young, great height and technical stand-up. He's a great up and comer with lots of potential. I'm inclined to agree with most that have posted about his power (haven't seen his true potential to KO guys).

He's hungry and the loss to Mr. Wonderful put him on the path to redemption.

If Shogun comes in (like the Vera fight), it'll be a long night for both men.... probably getting a split decision to Shogun. It'll be an absolute war of attrition.

If Shogun is fresh and ready, I say he stops Gus cold within the first 1-2 rounds. It's a bold call but I think Gus may need a few more fights to overtake the top 3-5 guys in the division.

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I love how Rogan always says a guy climbing up the ladder is oobbseesseedd of becoming the champion. Cmon, is he really?

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Yah I'm with BC here. They should have put Alex vs someone else to set em up for the title fight, but not against Shogun.

This is going to be an interesting fight. One who moves laterally constantly picking angles vs a guy who pushes forward aggressively.

Without any favoritism, I think Gustaf might take the decision by knocking down Shogun, but not finishing em. Now if Gustaf finishes Shogun I will be helluve surprised. But I won't be surprised if Shogun finishes Gustaf.

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When it comes to Shogun nowadays I just don't know. He looked good in the Machida fights and got the better of Forrest in the rematch, but then you look back at his fights against Forrest, Coleman and Vera and he looked awful.

Either Shogun gets Gustaf in the first round or Gustaf avoids the onslaught and finishes Shogun in the later rounds/wins a lopsided decision.
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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
Shogun may have all around better Jui-Jitsu but Phil definitely has a better sub game then Shogun. it's basically a myth.
Most ridiculous thing I've heard all day.
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i like to look at the shogun/vera fight and say vera looked good and not that shogun looked awful
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