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post #71 of 224 (permalink) Old 12-05-2012, 12:42 PM
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Don't think this one has a chance of being boring and a pretty decent card all around!!!!!!!
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Cerrone looked a bit off in that fight maybe too many fights in 2012 but definately he will have that belt soon!!!!!!
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Cerrone didn't follow Nate into his guard and mostly used them for trips, Ben might since he's never been subbed in the UFC or WEC.

I do think Cerrone could beat Nate in a rematch though.
LOL of course you do. Nate kicked his ass when people gave him little chance. Dominated completely.

Ben's sub D is overrated. Cerrone is probably the best sub finisher he has faced...yet you see how scared Cerrone was to go to the ground with Nate?

If Ben plays around and gets himself in bad positions like he always does...he won't get out vs. Nate. Nate is way better at locking in subs than anyone Ben has fought. The best guy Ben fought on the ground was terrified to go there with Nate. Another guy he fought with good BJJ is Jim Miller and Nate sub'd him effortlessly.

Ben Henderson has no way of finishing this fight. He has to hold on for 5 rounds.
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LOL of course you do. Nate kicked his ass when people gave him little chance. Dominated completely.

Ben's sub D is overrated. Cerrone is probably the best sub finisher he has faced...yet you see how scared Cerrone was to go to the ground with Nate?

If Ben plays around and gets himself in bad positions like he always does...he won't get out vs. Nate. Nate is way better at locking in subs than anyone Ben has fought. The best guy Ben fought on the ground was terrified to go there with Nate. Another guy he fought with good BJJ is Jim Miller and Nate sub'd him effortlessly.

Ben Henderson has no way of finishing this fight. He has to hold on for 5 rounds.
If Cerrone fought like Condit did against Nick then yeah, he could beat Nate, he's got the style and body type to pull that off.

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If Cerrone fought like Condit did against Nick then yeah, he could beat Nate, he's got the style and body type to pull that off.
Yea if he changes who he is and what he is all about to point fight his way to a win he might be able to pull out a close decision like Condit.

In the pocket he was schooled by Nate. His defense was exposed. And we all saw how terrified he was to go to the ground with Nate. Ben's amazing sub D subs off his fights with Cerrone. A guy who was deathly terrified to go to the ground with Nate.
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Yea if he changes who he is and what he is all about to point fight his way to a win he might be able to pull out a close decision like Condit.

In the pocket he was schooled by Nate. His defense was exposed. And we all saw how terrified he was to go to the ground with Nate. Ben's amazing sub D subs off his fights with Cerrone. A guy who was deathly terrified to go to the ground with Nate.
I'm aware of all that, that's why I said he could beat him in a rematch, not that he would.

As for the amazing sub defense, we'll see how amazing it really is, Ben gives guys chokes but if he does that to a Cesar Gracie black belt I think he'll finally pay, Nick, Nate, and even Jake are all monsters on the ground.

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Nate doesn't throw up half ass'd subs.. if he locks it, its over.. even for Bendo.. cerrone would do much better in a rematch but it seems like diaz has his number
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No way cerone could pull a Condit he doesn't have that strong steep kick and he doesn't have the conditioning. Condit fought an extremely active fight and that takes some intense conditioning that very few fighters can lay claim to.


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No way cerone could pull a Condit he doesn't have that strong steep kick and he doesn't have the conditioning. Condit fought an extremely active fight and that takes some intense conditioning that very few fighters can lay claim to.


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I wouldn't like to think he could pull it off... but I do think he can. He's been in 5 round, explosive fights before. But I do hope Cerrone doesn't, and continues to put on entertaining fights where he actually engages his opponents and isn't afraid to get hit. Tailor made for a Diaz.

Back on topic, I see Nate taking this fight and leaving it all out there, probably finishing Hendo.
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Condit is a more cerebral fighter than Cerrone even though they're from the same camp. The Cowboys does what he wants to do sometimes. I was very surprised how badly he got tooled against Nate. Credit to Nate though.

I went with Bendo through sheer control. If he comes with a tactical gameplan the way Guida executed (yes it is boring) then Bendo should take it.

I will say this fight could be FOTN, but this entire card is EXPLOSIVE!

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