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post #81 of 224 (permalink) Old 12-06-2012, 11:15 AM
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As athletic, explosive, strong that everyone says Bendo is...which is true...he has ZERO chance of finishing Nate. Ben Henderson is becoming a decision machine. His only way of winning this is on the judges scorecards.
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As athletic, explosive, strong that everyone says Bendo is...which is true...he has ZERO chance of finishing Nate. Ben Henderson is becoming a decision machine. His only way of winning this is on the judges scorecards.
I agree, Diaz bros normally don't win a lot of decisions. I'd like to see Ben use a lot of leg kicks on Nate and then go for the take down (Nate Diaz has suspect take down defense). When/if he gets Diaz on his back he has to immediately get to side mount, he can't get himself in Nate's guard.

Ben has great conditioning and I see him pushing the pace in this fight. Ben's M.O. should be takedowns takedowns and takedowns. He has a really good guillotine submission defense and good rear naked choke defense.

For Nate Diaz to win this fight he needs to make sure he using his flurry punches a lot, keeping the distance and not getting take down.

My prediction: Ben Henderson by decision based on conditioning and take downs.
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I agree, Diaz bros normally don't win a lot of decisions. I'd like to see Ben use a lot of leg kicks on Nate and then go for the take down (Nate Diaz has suspect take down defense). When/if he gets Diaz on his back he has to immediately get to side mount, he can't get himself in Nate's guard.

Ben has great conditioning and I see him pushing the pace in this fight. Ben's M.O. should be takedowns takedowns and takedowns. He has a really good guillotine submission defense and good rear naked choke defense.

For Nate Diaz to win this fight he needs to make sure he using his flurry punches a lot, keeping the distance and not getting take down.

My prediction: Ben Henderson by decision based on conditioning and take downs.
His conditioning will be tested too, the Diaz brothers are known for zapping guys' cardio with their style of boxing, if Nate can back him up then he could probably zap some of it out of him with body shots.

I don't think this is the same Nate that got controlled by Guida and Joe Daddy, if he was Jim Miller would have done the same thing to him they did. This is a five round fight and while people will point to Rory demolishing him I would suggest we look at the Stun-Gun fight where he came on strong against an exceptional grappler at a higher weight class. I expected Miller to use that same style but Nate dropped him and finished him off in brutal fashion, I'm hoping he does the same here because it'd be really nice to see Bendo take a beating.

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i voted ben, but then realised i'd forgot how god nate's been looking of late, it's a real toss up fight, I'm hoping ror a back and forth entertaining battle with a finish, henderson head kick maybe? or nate by sub after softening up with strikes, I could see either happening with ease

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So I still can't pick a winner, this fight is too up in the air for me. I can see ways both men can win. The big thing for me is that neither guy was built to lose to the other guy, something we often see going into fights.
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I re-watched Edgar/Bendo 1 earlier today on FUEL and found out Bendo only has a 70 inch reach, Nate has a 76 inch reach and looked bigger than him yesterday I'm not so sure the Condit strategy will work now since Nick and Carlos were more similar in height/reach.

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Bit of a rookie mistake from Nate. He missed weight - think they forgot you don't get the 1lb leeway in a title fight.
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Honestly confused by how Nate and that camp can miss that. And then seem confused. Odd stuff. But he will make it.
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Yeah strange since both Nick and Gil have been in many title fights so you would have thought they would have atleast past that info onto Nate!



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Did Diaz make weight : sorry for my ignorance just super busy!


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