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Old 11-29-2012, 03:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Not that I don't believe you, but have you got a link/source for this? Wouldn't mind having a read.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/11/2...ufc-dana-white

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On what fight interests Nick Diaz the most:

"We're pushing for the GSP fight. That's what we're going to push for, GSP or Anderson Silva. That's the two fights that interest us the most, and that's the one's we're going for.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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he's already eclipsed Hughes who had some great finishes,
He eclipsed Hughes by beating and FINISHING him twice.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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He eclipsed Hughes by beating and FINISHING him twice.
Then doesn't that make the whole "he doesn't finish" point irrelevant?

Georges has tons of finishes, just none lately but look at his performances since he became a "safe" fighter.

- Handles Josh Koscheck with ease.
- Finishes Matt Hughes for a second time.
- Destroys Matt Serra in the rematch, finishing him.
- Batters Jon Fitch from pillar to post for 25 minutes.
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- Drops Thiago Alves, tears groin, goes onto win decision.
- Nearly submits Dan Hardy on two occasions, completely dominates the fight.
- Nearly retires Josh Koscheck with a jab.
- Lackluster fight with Jake Shields.
- Puts on FOTY candidate with Carlos Condit.

The whole "GSP is safe" angle is really, really overblown and I think a lot of people got that just because he took down two guys who were labeled as lethal strikers, although Alves actually is one, where as Hardy was really just false hype so to speak. It really makes me question if people actually watch his fights because his only real bad fight in that stretch is the Jake Shields fight and he was consistently poked in the eye.

And I don't wanna hear anything about the Koscheck fight either, that fight clearly should have been stopped and he did do significant damage to Koscheck's eye.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Alves being some lethal striker is a myth. He does have some nice leg kicks. But he is short in all areas. His hands are average, very average. The last time he stopped anyone with strikes was at UFC 85 vs. a starting to be over the hill Matt Hughes. And everyone went nuts and he still lives off that win.
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Alves being some lethal striker is a myth. He does have some nice leg kicks. But he is short in all areas. His hands are average, very average. The last time he stopped anyone with strikes was at UFC 85 vs. a starting to be over the hill Matt Hughes. And everyone went nuts and he still lives off that win.
He was busting up Kampmann on the feet, never will understand why he went for that stupid takedown but regardless, still was winning the fight. He dropped Abedi, owned John Howard on the feet and before he was crushing cans he completely owned Karo(back when he was relevant), Lytle, Koscheck, and Hughes. Not to mention he was lighting Story up in the third round of their fight.

I'm the only Alves nuthugger left though, so maybe I'm just biased but yeah, you won't find many with better leg kicks.
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He was busting up Kampmann on the feet, never will understand why he went for that stupid takedown but regardless, still was winning the fight. He dropped Abedi, owned John Howard on the feet and before he was crushing cans he completely owned Karo(back when he was relevant), Lytle, Koscheck, and Hughes. Not to mention he was lighting Story up in the third round of their fight.

I'm the only Alves nuthugger left though, so maybe I'm just biased but yeah, you won't find many with better leg kicks.
I mean he is a good stand up fighter. He has good MT. But his length hurts him. And his hands are no where as good as his kicks.
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I'm the biggest Diaz fan out there and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he would get absolutely crushed by Anderson.
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See we could go back and forth with this.
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Then doesn't that make the whole "he doesn't finish" point irrelevant?

Georges has tons of finishes, just none lately but look at his performances since he became a "safe" fighter.

- Handles Josh Koscheck with ease.
- Finishes Matt Hughes for a second time.
- Destroys Matt Serra in the rematch, finishing him.
- Batters Jon Fitch from pillar to post for 25 minutes.
- Finishes BJ Penn
- Drops Thiago Alves, tears groin, goes onto win decision.
- Nearly submits Dan Hardy on two occasions, completely dominates the fight.
- Nearly retires Josh Koscheck with a jab.
- Lackluster fight with Jake Shields.
- Puts on FOTY candidate with Carlos Condit.

The whole "GSP is safe" angle is really, really overblown and I think a lot of people got that just because he took down two guys who were labeled as lethal strikers, although Alves actually is one, where as Hardy was really just false hype so to speak. It really makes me question if people actually watch his fights because his only real bad fight in that stretch is the Jake Shields fight and he was consistently poked in the eye.

And I don't wanna hear anything about the Koscheck fight either, that fight clearly should have been stopped and he did do significant damage to Koscheck's eye.
Yeah the Condit fight woke me up a bit to GSP. I'll never really be interested in his fights but it made me rethink how boring and safe he really is, and it's not the case in almost all of his fights.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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It would probably be an uninteresting fight where Anderson danced around Nick and kicked him a bunch in between taunting a lot.

Nick's punches are really slow too, so Anderson probably would keep his hands down a lot.
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