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post #91 of 115 (permalink) Old 12-04-2012, 01:16 AM
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Im still amazed that people are calling the punch JDS landed a 'lucky shot'. He has hit most of the people he's fought with blistering heavy shots and the vast majority of them have gone down. Off the top of my Head I can only think of Nelson and Carwin who have managed to stay concious after eating a big shot from JDS.

Im not saying it is impossible, but I'd be very surprised if Cain can take one of those shots again from JDS and not go out. I'd also be surprised if It goes past the 2nd round.
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Im still amazed that people are calling the punch JDS landed a 'lucky shot'. He has hit most of the people he's fought with blistering heavy shots and the vast majority of them have gone down. Off the top of my Head I can only think of Nelson and Carwin who have managed to stay concious after eating a big shot from JDS.

Im not saying it is impossible, but I'd be very surprised if Cain can take one of those shots again from JDS and not go out. I'd also be surprised if It goes past the 2nd round.
If Cain cannot take JDS down and implement hos GNP, he'll get deja vu and become desperate. As you said, it's been shown JDS can knock him down as he normally does, with the exception of Carwin or Nelson.


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JDS isn't Bigfoot Silva. If you can't tell the difference, then please stop watching MMA immediately. Cain destroyed a second tier fighter. Good on him. He made his statement. But JDS is the champion, and for good reason. If Cain could destroy him, he would have in their first encounter.

People base their belief that JDS can't be taken down on the fact that he hasn't been taken and/or kept down since coming to the UFC. Cain also failed to take Junior down, regardless of the quality of his attempt. We're basing our beliefs off of empirical evidence. Whereas you're speculating and nothing more.

'Cain will take JDS down and he won't get back up'... and you base this off of what? Cain's taking down a slow and plodding Big Foot? Junior's stuffing of Cain's takedown attempt? Junior's KO of Cain? You base it off of absolutely nothing, and yet you have the balls to call out anyone who thinks that Junior will be able to stave off Cain's takedowns? Cool story, bro.
Where did I compare?. I wrote that Cain made a statement in the silva fight. Silva is still a top ten heavyweight and people on here go on as if he was just some man pulled of the street. Cain has ran through every opponent in The UFC and this fight I believe will be no different. Sure both men where injured the first fight, i ain't gonna argue with that but Cain was off his game.

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God you're insufferable sometimes, CP. We get it, this is your sandbox.
Your schtick is increasingly tiresome. I feel badly for the 'man' who has nothing better to do with his time but troll another poster online. That's some life you've got there, cowboy. And as I won't be getting dragged into an argument with a troll, feel free to have the last word. I know you need it more than I do.
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Where did I compare?. I wrote that Cain made a statement in the silva fight. Silva is still a top ten heavyweight and people on here go on as if he was just some man pulled of the street. Cain has ran through every opponent in The UFC and this fight I believe will be no different. Sure both men where injured the first fight, i ain't gonna argue with that but Cain was off his game.
Cain has ran through every opponent... except one.


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Where did I compare?. I wrote that Cain made a statement in the silva fight. Silva is still a top ten heavyweight and people on here go on as if he was just some man pulled of the street. Cain has ran through every opponent in The UFC and this fight I believe will be no different. Sure both men where injured the first fight, i ain't gonna argue with that but Cain was off his game.
How was he off his game exactly? Because he was hurt? Well if that's the case Junior was off his.

Junior's been nearly flawless in the UFC and he has either stopped or just flat out beat up everyone's he fought in the UFC, he really is underrated when it comes to the discussion of whose the best fighter in the world.

- KO's Werdum
- Stop's Struve
- Batters Cro Cop, blinds him.
- Stops Yvel
- KO's Gonzaga
- Batters Nelson in a war
- Batters Carwin
- KO's Cain
- Stop's Mir.

It really is an amazing run he's had thus far, everyone knows his intentions and he's been able to execute them, the first fight was no fluke it was right in line with Junior's entire UFC career, he hit his opponent and they either fell down or they made it the full fifteen and took an ass whipping in the process, Cain fell down and Junior ended his night.

I find it laughable anyone will write off the first fight as a fluke or a lucky punch, as I said, the first fight went like every other fight he's had in the UFC, he just ended it quicker than any other he's had and if he puts his hands on Cain again the same will happen in the rematch.

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As much as I hate to say this, JDS's 64 sec KO of Cain really isn't an much of an indication of how these two match-up. I'm not going to say JDS didn't didn't earn his win, because he certainly did. But I also think Cain caused himself to lose the last fight.

Cain utilized the absolute worst possible game plan when it came to fighting JDS. He stood on the outside, exactly where JDS wanted to fight, and allowed himself to get picked apart and KO'd. Cain has MUCH more tools in his arsenal then what he showed, and I think that will be evident in the second fight. If Cain can push the pace, clinch with JDS against the cage, use some dirty boxing and get some takedowns, Cain can surely get the 5 rd decision win. He has NCAA Div 1 wrestling. I'm pretty sure he can take JDS down, but the problem will be keeping JDS down. JDS's takedown defense reminds me of Chuck Liddell, very difficult to takedown, and when he does, he springs right back up.

If JDS can keep the fight standing and keep within boxing distance, I don't see this fight lasting more than 3 rds with JDS getting the KO.

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Certainly doesn't mean otherwise, but you like to make it sound like it does. This is more insulting than his "claims", but yeah, you were only 9.
I'm not saying calling him a legendary warrior is bull, I'm saying that he is not morally infallible by way of being a legendary warrior. Sorry if it bugs you that I don't believe everything that comes out of these guys mouths.
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I'm not saying calling him a legendary warrior is bull, I'm saying that he is not morally infallible by way of being a legendary warrior. Sorry if it bugs you that I don't believe everything that comes out of these guys mouths.
Oh, I understood what you said in the first time so the part you quoted fits nicely all the same...
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Certainly doesn't mean otherwise, but you like to make it sound like it does. This is more insulting than his "claims", but yeah, you were only 9.


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